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curlyhash 05-29-2011 10:06 AM

Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
So I tested how I could be locked out and wanted to see if this is universal. So have a spare KeyFob handy, preferable away from the jeep to test this. Then have your main KeyFob while you are sitting in the driver seat with door open and car off, obviously. Press KeyFob lock and it locks all the doors. Then leave your key fob in the car and then shut your door. Get locked out right?? Use spare KeyFob outside car, problem solved.
This is different than pressing inside door lock, because when that happens and door is shut, car honks and unlocks.

Side note... Another funny thing that happened to me, is when the car is on and in drive waiting to get fast-food, I accidentally pressed the panic button and the car goes crazy even while it's on and in drive? Pressed panic button again and car went back to normal

scottw911 05-29-2011 07:27 PM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Yep, worked just as you explained. So, yes, this is the universal method of locking yourself out.

fourwheelin7 05-29-2011 10:27 PM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Another side note, don't leave your vehicle running with your key fob in your pocket. Somebody can still drive off with your vehicle without a key fob inside the vehicle, this is probably been covered in another thread but just FYI. ( Not that somebody stole my vehicle but my fiance was in Jeep with me when I went on a fire call, Volunteer Fireman, and I had the key fob with me while on the fire call and she drove the vehicle home!! )

Marlin 05-29-2011 11:24 PM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
My experience with other keyless-go vehicles is the engine stops when the vehicle gets out of range of the key fob.

1200RT-P 05-29-2011 11:32 PM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fourwheelin7 (Post 422200)
Another side note, don't leave your vehicle running with your key fob in your pocket. Somebody can still drive off with your vehicle without a key fob inside the vehicle, this is probably been covered in another thread but just FYI. ( Not that somebody stole my vehicle but my fiance was in Jeep with me when I went on a fire call, Volunteer Fireman, and I had the key fob with me while on the fire call and she drove the vehicle home!! )

This is a bad habit i've picked up as well. Truck running, leave my GF in the running car (so she can listen to radio, keep AC on, whatever), hop out to pick something up, and truck stays running. Seems like design flaw, but also user error (on my part).

the1jake 05-30-2011 07:17 AM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Was your second key fob within range of the vehicle? I'm curious to how the vehicle would react if it was not and you locked the first fob inside without the second fob being in range. Perhaps that's the reason you could lock yourself out, since the second fob was in range?

I've locked my keys in and the vehicle started honking when I walked away. No issues (and no second fob close by) getting back in and wasn't locked out.

the1jake 05-30-2011 07:18 AM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin (Post 422211)
My experience with other keyless-go vehicles is the engine stops when the vehicle gets out of range of the key fob.

Same. No worries about somebody driving off without the key fob being in range.

mjw930 05-30-2011 08:07 AM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
When I leave mine running and go into a store my wife says it starts beeping and complaining "FOB out of range". I never had her try to drive away but it would seem it does know something isn't right. Simple code fix to prevent it from being put in gear if the FOB is out of range EXCEPT, what do you do if the FOB battery dies and you're using the key manually in the ignition? Bottom line, there's nothing they can do that wouldn't cause a bigger problem if the FOB decides to stop working. The car will start and run if the ignition detects the RFID chip but the FOB battery is removed so it's a catch 22.

rb3wreath 05-30-2011 09:25 AM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Last fall on a WK2 test drive, my friend and I tried this out. I started the Jeep, stepped out and stayed in the parking lot and he drove way down the street without any problems. The EVIC complained at him, but it fully worked otherwise.

Also, if the FOB battery died, couldn't you pop off the Start/Stop button and turn it like you used to in the 2010s? Tried this at the dealership last week and I think that'd probably work.

Andrew Klossner 05-30-2011 10:06 AM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rb3wreath (Post 422318)
I started the Jeep, stepped out and stayed in the parking lot and he drove way down the street without any problems. The EVIC complained at him, but it fully worked otherwise.

That's a failsafe. It has to work that way so that, if something goes wrong with the key detection mechanism, the car won't shut down on you. That's a higher priority than preventing the operator from walking away from a running car.

Three times this weekend, my car has declared "missing key" while the key was in my pocket. Punching out the UNLOCK button on the fob cleared up the problem.

the1jake 05-30-2011 11:49 AM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
The key fob takes a 3V DL2032 battery you can find at any CVS. I keep an extra one in the vehicle just in case.

Remove the emergency key from the fob. Pry open the key fob around the edges. Remove the rubber touch pad and you'll see the battery. Very easy to replace.

2005JGC 05-30-2011 12:17 PM

Re: Is this method of Locking yourself out universal?
 
start your car, walk away till the evic says "key not in range" then have someone get in and try to drive away... my bet is that it will not allow the prndl to come out of park... I am assuming that she had it in drive before you were out of range. Personally even if what I said is the case, the vehicle should stop running reguardless if the key is not present.


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