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singhgill 06-06-2011 08:56 AM

Oil Change Really Due?
 
Hello All,

I got first oil change at around 2100 miles and yesterday i noticed a information message in EVIC: Oil Change Due. I just had 3500 miles in total so i doubt why it notified for oil change within just 1400 miles.

My question is how Oil change reminder is calculated? Is this by the quality of oil or is this something the dealer forgot to reset the reminder when i went out to get first oil change?

I have not got chance to look at the oil yet. But is this something i need to get addressed right away? if not then i will wait for couple weeks as i have a 800 mile roundtrip coming in next 2 weeks.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.. :)

RedBolt 06-06-2011 05:57 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
I changed my oil at 1000 miles and the oil change due message came on at 3500 for me as well. Based on what I have read in this forum, it appears that this has happened to many others too. I can't say for sure it is programmed that way; it is only my observation. After that first change oil at 3500 miles, the oil change light seems to function as advertised.

Redbolt

dharel1705 06-06-2011 07:12 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
My wife an I have had these oil change notifications on several Jeep & Chrysler automobiles over the past few years. We've been told by our dealer's service manager, that the notification is programmed to turn on 500 miles before the actual oil change is required depending on driving conditions. Sure enough, this has held true for each of the vehicles we've owned with this type of notification. This explains why the notifications shows even if you've changed the oil earlier than 3500 miles.

Cherodude 06-06-2011 08:35 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
From page 268 of the Owner's Manual, 4th ed.:

Engine Oil Change Indicator System

Oil Change Due
Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change indicator system. The “Oil Change Due” message will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds after a single chime has sounded, to indicate the next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the engine oil change interval may fluctuate, dependent upon your personal driving style.

Unless reset, this message will continue to display each time you turn the ignition switch to the ON/RUN position. To turn off the message temporarily, press and release the MENU button.

To reset the oil change indicator system (after performing the scheduled maintenance) refer to the following procedure.
1. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position (Do not start the engine).
2. Fully depress the accelerator pedal, slowly, three times within 10 seconds.
3. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF/LOCK position.

NOTE: If the indicator message illuminates when you start the vehicle, the oil change indicator system did not reset. If necessary, repeat this procedure.

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As for the OP's question: Oil should not need a change at 1,400 miles. The dealer likely forgot to do the reset procedure (above). If the oil looks clean, should be OK for your trip.

Technosavant 06-07-2011 08:06 AM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
Looks like they forgot to reset the indicator.

As near as we can figure, the computer tracks your driving behavior and selects a given maintenance interval (either 4000 or 8000 miles). It will then trigger the "change oil" indicator at 500 miles before the given mileage for the selected interval (hence it lighting at 3500 miles; it had you on the severe duty interval).

It doesn't analyze the oil; there aren't too many vehicles that bother with that kind of thing.

I'd go ahead and reset the indicator, but change the oil at 4000 miles from your last oil change and then reset the indicator again (even though it won't have triggered yet).

hammer1234 06-07-2011 09:32 AM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherodude (Post 426354)
From page 268 of the Owner's Manual, 4th ed.:

Engine Oil Change Indicator System

Oil Change Due
Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change indicator system. The “Oil Change Due” message will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds after a single chime has sounded, to indicate the next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the engine oil change interval may fluctuate, dependent upon your personal driving style.

Unless reset, this message will continue to display each time you turn the ignition switch to the ON/RUN position. To turn off the message temporarily, press and release the MENU button.

To reset the oil change indicator system (after performing the scheduled maintenance) refer to the following procedure.
1. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position (Do not start the engine).
2. Fully depress the accelerator pedal, slowly, three times within 10 seconds.
3. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF/LOCK position.

NOTE: If the indicator message illuminates when you start the vehicle, the oil change indicator system did not reset. If necessary, repeat this procedure.

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As for the OP's question: Oil should not need a change at 1,400 miles. The dealer likely forgot to do the reset procedure (above). If the oil looks clean, should be OK for your trip.

I have the message indicator icon and I can read the message, but I got but no chime this morning...if I start to back up right away does that override the message chime?

I'll check this later as well when I don't need to back up right after starting.

BTW my Jeep is just over 3500 miles so the system is recommending a change at 4000...which I was planning on doing anyway.

Edit: If I didn't back up right after starting I got the chime. All is fine.

Breitling65 06-08-2011 07:22 AM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
I got same 1k after changing oil. I guess no one know how to reset it and I never go to dealer to change oil. Doesn't mean anything, just dummy/annoying reminder.

dlang 06-15-2011 01:00 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
I have to do this silly tap dance with my '08 Charger as well. The reset should really be built into the EVIC.

Technosavant 06-15-2011 04:14 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
Most every car has some specific procedure like this (hold this button, turn key to X position but not start, etc.). IMO, the Chrysler "turn it on but not start, depress pedal X times" is one of the easier ones to perform.

mwb14 06-15-2011 04:29 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
I had not gotten any reminder to change the oil and I had just over 4200 on the Jeep when I decided to have it changed. I switched to full synthetic and asked the dealer if there was a way to set the reminder based on use of a synthetic oil, he said no, the Jeep only goes by cycles (starts I assume) and mileage. Would be nice if it actually analyzed the oil, we have a Corvette and that shows oil life remaining, but I'm not sure how that is calculated either.

JayB 06-15-2011 04:34 PM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
bwah. you guys are silly.

8,000 miles is when my little chimey thingy went off. (well slightly more actually)

I laughed when I left the dealer after they changed the oil and they put the little sticker on the windshield that said come back in 3k..... guess they try to sucker you in with a free change then see if you'll be sucked in every 3,000 miles as a paying sap.

I'll change my oil every 8k from now on. or maybe 10k or more as long as no issues are suspected.

Technosavant 06-16-2011 10:13 AM

Re: Oil Change Really Due?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwb14 (Post 431538)
I had not gotten any reminder to change the oil and I had just over 4200 on the Jeep when I decided to have it changed. I switched to full synthetic and asked the dealer if there was a way to set the reminder based on use of a synthetic oil, he said no, the Jeep only goes by cycles (starts I assume) and mileage. Would be nice if it actually analyzed the oil, we have a Corvette and that shows oil life remaining, but I'm not sure how that is calculated either.

Probably the same way the Jeep does it- by noting what kind of trips you take. My wife's Acura showed a % of oil life remaining too, and that's how it did it.

Mercedes is the only automaker I know of who actually used an oil sensor to check the lubricant itself, and I don't know if they still do it that way. It's one more thing that can go wrong and it doesn't really bring anything to the table that can't be inferred from how the vehicle is being driven. Sure, it would be more definite, but I doubt we're talking about doubling your oil change interval.


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