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djcodered 06-13-2011 06:11 PM

Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
After installing my 2" Rough Country Lift, Bilstein Struts and Shocks and buying new Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 265/70/17 tires I excitedly went to my local service shop (not a dealer) and requested a front end alignment.

It began with the shop not being able to quote a price for the alignment because "Sometimes these lifts require special kits to get the alignment into spec."

So we left and about 30 minutes later they called and said that we should come back because there were some things "wrong" with the vehicle. After checking out we drove back to the shop where we found my WK on the hoist.

We were ushered into the repair bay and the "alignment specialist" start pointing out what was wrong.

He said the following:

1. These type of lifts aren't designed for independent front suspension but would be ok on a Wrangler or older Grand Cherokee. When I countered and said that it "WAS" designed for the WK and XK and that 1,000's of drivers use it. He said that it was "marketed" to the WK and XK crowd but not meant to be used on it.

2. They put too much pressure on all the components

3. They stress the sway bar too much

4. They stress the steering components.

5. The rear part of the lift shifted the axle over to one side by 1.5"


Essentially he said that it was unsafe to drive.

Would you be worried? Is he full of crap?

NHWK05 06-13-2011 06:28 PM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
Ive used spacer lifts in many vehicles before and never had an issue with them, though i am not lifting my wk i would not hesitate to put one in it if i was lifting it.

They do not stress the sway bar too much, if it was really an issue they would include extension links. The steering is slightly stressed but that will happen on any vehicle with a lift. The rear axle shifted because a 2" lift does not come with a new rear track bar or pan hard bar but that will happen with any vehicle with a 2" lift and will not cause you any problems. I also doubt it was 1.5". When i did a 2" on my old cherokee it shifted the front axle maybe 3/4" to 1" max. Never had any issues with it. This guy is full of shit thats why i only get lifts installed by customizing shops or by myself. Dealers and alignment techs will always discourage you from modifying any vehicles suspension. The rear is only checked for a point of reference but there is nothing to align on the rear of the vehicle. Just tell them to do a front end only alignment w/o reference of the rear wheels if they bitch about that too much.

That guys if full of pure shit. Tell him he has Diarrhea of the mouth and you will go else where to get work done from now on.

djcodered 06-13-2011 07:03 PM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NHWK05 (Post 430239)
Ive used spacer lifts in many vehicles before and never had an issue with them, though i am not lifting my wk i would not hesitate to put one in it if i was lifting it.

They do not stress the sway bar too much, if it was really an issue they would include extension links. The steering is slightly stressed but that will happen on any vehicle with a lift. The rear axle shifted because a 2" lift does not come with a new rear track bar or pan hard bar but that will happen with any vehicle with a 2" lift and will not cause you any problems. I also doubt it was 1.5". When i did a 2" on my old cherokee it shifted the front axle maybe 3/4" to 1" max. Never had any issues with it. This guy is full of shit thats why i only get lifts installed by customizing shops or by myself. Dealers and alignment techs will always discourage you from modifying any vehicles suspension. The rear is only checked for a point of reference but there is nothing to align on the rear of the vehicle. Just tell them to do a front end only alignment w/o reference of the rear wheels if they bitch about that too much.

That guys if full of pure shit. Tell him he has Diarrhea of the mouth and you will go else where to get work done from now on.

Thanks for your input. This particular repair place wouldn't do the front end alignment..stating the vehicle was unsafe do to the lift. We will take it some where else tomorrow and try again. All we wanted was a front end alignment, we did the lift ourselves, as my other threads can attest to...Its just frustrating to hear from a supposed professional that our newly acquired WK is "messed up" and has a lot of issues with it now because of the lift.

I appreciate your candor and will keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks again.

lll2for3lll 06-13-2011 07:37 PM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
But you have to look at all the post about people having problems with lifted WKs. There is "some" truth about the lift causing problems with other suspension components.

Some people install lifts and drive for miles and no problems.

Some people install lifts and it becomes a nightmare with each mile afterwards.

Crashtown 06-14-2011 10:46 AM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
It's a Jeep... lift it! A shop that we contract our work vehicles to recommended that I go to the dealer because his computer didn't have the programming in case things got way out of spec to default it to OEM, or something like that. I appreciate his honesty, and the dealer front allignment was $75. With a 5-link rear, it's the best we can do without fab-ing an adjustable rear track bar setup. But it's only a 2" lift, I'll live with it.

djcodered 06-14-2011 10:51 AM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashtown (Post 430583)
It's a Jeep... lift it! A shop that we contract our work vehicles to recommended that I go to the dealer because his computer didn't have the programming in case things got way out of spec to default it to OEM, or something like that. I appreciate his honesty, and the dealer allignment was $75.

Thanks for the info...just out of curiosity..how long have you been lifted? Did the dealer service tech say anything negative about it?

Thanks to all who stopped by and actually submitted an answer to the poll!

Keep 'em coming

Crashtown 06-14-2011 10:56 AM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djcodered (Post 430584)
Thanks for the info...just out of curiosity..how long have you been lifted? Did the dealer service tech say anything negative about it?

Finally lifted it in January, after the lift sat in the box for a year. I made the dealer aware of the lift when I made the appointment. They said that they alligned another lifted WK a month earlier. That guy is actually on the JU Forum and recommended the dealer as well.

lll2for3lll 06-14-2011 11:17 AM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
Firestone did my alignment. I have a lifetime alignment with them and the lift didn't void it.

mhassler 06-14-2011 11:47 AM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
This past Saturday I took my 2011 Grand Cherokee in for an alignment as I lifted it the previous weekend.

It was a Goodyear Tire center. I called to make sure they would do the alignment and I told them it was lifted 2.5". They said it be no problem.

On the work order they clearly wrote that they put everything back to spec as close as possible. Basically to cover their a$$.

I wouldn't be afraid at all, I will certainly drive my 4-month old daughter, 5-yr old and wife around in my 2011. Try another shop.

dmlong47 06-14-2011 11:50 AM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
i got the 4" lift mostly to avoid all this issues since it re does the whole front suspension and keeps the property geometry. but im sure you will be fine he probably was pulling the same shit they do at discount tires where they say they patch your tires for free and then they tell you its un safe to drive so you need to by new tires

antsjeep 06-14-2011 12:28 PM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
It really sounds like the shop doesnt want to be bothered with it and were feeding you excuses and things for you to worry about so you would go away.

I've spoken with two shops already and both said there was no problem at all doing an alignment for my lift Jeep. $70 and done.

Crashtown 06-14-2011 12:33 PM

Re: Are 2" Spacer Lifts Dangerous?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mhassler (Post 430612)
This past Saturday I took my 2011 Grand Cherokee in for an alignment as I lifted it the previous weekend.

It was a Goodyear Tire center. I called to make sure they would do the alignment and I told them it was lifted 2.5". They said it be no problem.

Who makes your WK2 lift?


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