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Jumpjet101 06-20-2011 11:50 AM

Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
I just changed the fluids in my transfer case and front/rear differentials. I used Mobil 1 75w140 with the limited slip additive for the diffs.

I went to my local Jeep dealer and I had to argue with the parts person regarding my NV245 transfer case on my 06 Overland 5.7 with QDII. He wanted to sell me ATF-4 and told me that's what their system is telling him that it uses. I told him the part number (05016796AC) of the fluid that I needed and he said that my Jeep doesn't use that fluid and insisted on selling me the ATF-4. Well I went on ahead against his wisdom and purchased the fluid that was listed on WKJeeps (p/n 05016796AC). After I left, I called two more dealers and asked them what type of fluid is required for my Overland and they both told me ATF-4. I didn't bother to question them. Now correct me if I'm wrong but I am pretty sure that an 06 Overland with QDII does not take ATF-4 and requires 05016796AC, right? I told them that it was for a NV245 transfer case.

I already changed the fluid but want to make certain of this. Would ATF-4 damage the NV245 transfer case if used? So if I would have let them service my Jeep, they would have surely put ATF-4 in it.

SvenskaJeepGuy 06-20-2011 11:58 AM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
you are correct, you need the mopar fluid for your case. i have also argued with my dealer over this. i had to bring a tech out once to show him my tcase becasue he did not believe me.

jlewissystem 06-20-2011 12:01 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Great question! I'm also curious on this one, although I've referenced WKJEEPS, bought and changed my own with the recommended NV245 Mopar fluid. I swear some ppl use ATF+4 like duct tape.....on everything. That sounds kinda weird from the dealer, especially with WKJEEPS saying "(Usage of other fluids/lubricants is not recommended)". I have a buddy thats a CHRYCO mech. I'll see if he says anything.

TJXJWJ 06-20-2011 12:07 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Reason #1,856,452 to not let the dealer service your vehicle whenever possible....

Jumpjet101 06-20-2011 12:17 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SvenskaJeepGuy (Post 434298)
you are correct, you need the mopar fluid for your case. i have also argued with my dealer over this. i had to bring a tech out once to show him my tcase becasue he did not believe me.

Thanks for clearing that up. I wanted to be sure since 3 dealers were telling me differently.

jlewissystem 06-20-2011 12:27 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
I would still go with the NV245 fluid.....

So, weird just got weirder: talked to my mech buddy: he hasn't heard of the Mopar NV245 fluid, even when i gave him the PN and neither has his service mgr :eek::eek:


Uhhhhh.......another reason I'm glad to have this community. So, is there anyone out there with QT2 or QD2 that's running ATF+4? If so.....how's it going? :confused:

2005JGC 06-20-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlewissystem (Post 434335)
I would still go with the NV245 fluid.....

So, weird just got weirder: talked to my mech buddy: he hasn't heard of the Mopar NV245 fluid, even when i gave him the PN and neither has his service mgr :eek::eek:


Uhhhhh.......another reason I'm glad to have this community. So, is there anyone out there with QT2 or QD2 that's running ATF+4? If so.....how's it going? :confused:

because there is no such thing as nv245 fluid. The nv245 uses nv247 fluid. It clearly states this in service information. One thing a decent tech will always consider (NOT rely on) is the color of the fluid coming out. For the grands its as simple as clear = nv247 red = atf+4

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jlewissystem 06-20-2011 01:35 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2005JGC (Post 434369)
because there is no such thing as nv245 fluid. The nv245 uses nv247 fluid. It clearly states this in service information. One thing a decent tech will always consider (NOT rely on) is the color of the fluid coming out. For the grands its as simple as clear = nv247 red = atf+4

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Interesting and good point! Does that mean that the 247 fluid is basically ATF+4?

Jumpjet101 06-20-2011 01:56 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlewissystem (Post 434370)
Interesting and good point! Does that mean that the 247 fluid is basically ATF+4?

I am thinking that the 247 fluid is the same as the 245. This is quoted from WKJeeps site: "Mopar NV245/247/249 p/n 05016796AC"

This leads me to believe that they are all the same fluid and not ATF-4.

Milous 06-20-2011 02:47 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlewissystem (Post 434370)
Does that mean that the 247 fluid is basically ATF+4?

No!!!!

Jumpjet101, I would change to the correct fluid as soon as you can.

jlewissystem 06-20-2011 03:27 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milous (Post 434419)
No!!!!

Jumpjet101, I would change to the correct fluid as soon as you can.

I didn't think so. So, how can someone get some definite proof on what they need? For me, I'm doing the 245 fluid, BUT: dealers are saying ATF and WKJEEPS is saying 245..:confused:

Milous 06-20-2011 04:13 PM

Re: Transfer case fluid wrong by dealers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlewissystem (Post 434439)
BUT: dealers are saying ATF and WKJEEPS is saying 245..:confused:

IF dealers would simply take the time to look on the dealer website they would clearly see the following:

Grand Cherokee WK

NV140
MOPAR® ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid
1 Quart - 05013457AA
1.4 Pints

NV146 (6.1L engine Only)
MOPAR® Transfer Case Fluid NV146
1 Quart - 68001758AA
1.4 Pints

NV245
MOPAR® Transfer case Lubricant NV245 / NV247 / NV249
1 Quart - 05016796AB
3.8 Pints

Mopar ® NV146 Transfer Case Fluid. Usage of other fluid/lubricants is NOT recommended.

CAUTION: Nominal refill capacities are shown. A variation may be observed from vehicle to vehicle due to manufacturing tolerance and refill procedure.


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