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jp467 10-04-2011 09:34 PM

Feel road in steering
 
I had the intermediate shaft replaced in my Overland about 3 months ago before the tsb. It took care of the thud I was getting when stopping and starting, but it was the old part number it was replaced with. I still feel the road bumps etc through the wheel sometimes. I am trying to decide if its normal or if I should have them order the new part with the green dot and have it replaced. I hate to have something worked on if theres not problem. Just wondering what others with an overland think?

Eric67 10-05-2011 04:01 AM

Re: Feel road in steering
 
In my Overland I can feel road bumps, different road surfaces etc in the steering wheel. It has been from day 1. Never annoying, be you can feel it.
Think the issue are the big tires; more road contact, more vibrations going to he front end. Also the make of tires could have something to do with that. Thinking of changing tire brand.

Lingohocken 10-05-2011 10:09 AM

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Road "feel" used to be considered a virtue (sigh).

Technosavant 10-05-2011 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingohocken (Post 494408)
Road "feel" used to be considered a virtue (sigh).

Ditto.

If you want to exorcise any road feel, switching to the 18" rims will help (the extra sidewall will filter out the small bumps). Beyond that, I might recommend something that says "Buick" on the outside. :D

Jeff_Jeske 10-05-2011 11:06 AM

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I'm convinced they are all that way. Steering feedback has been a gripe of mine since day one. But I have test driven at least 15 jeep overlands and they all feel the same way. My wife doesn't notice the feedback but I do. My 2002 jeep is smooth as silk on the same roads. I'm stumped.

cloud11244 10-05-2011 07:24 PM

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My 2011 was built in Feb. 2011 and I have wondered if I have the infamous "thud" in the steering wheel. I do feel the road, but not excessively, so I am accepting is as normal.

Maxzhukov 10-18-2011 03:10 AM

Re: Feel road in steering
 
to JP467
I had the intermediate shaft replaced two times on my 04/2011 GC Limited. The last one was with a green dot. But this didn't fix the problem completely - it cured the thud when starting/stopping but I steel have a "road feeling" on the steering wheel.
Don't think it's normal! I took Overland with air suspension and it had no road feeling, the steering was absolutely "clear", despite 20" wheels.
I searched for the same problem on Mercedes ML forums (it has the common platform with GC) and found they changed bearing on the intermediate shaft and this cured the problem. Will do the same on GC.

see fig.6 on the pic

http://moparestore.trademotion.com/m...K/i2252651.gif

r0tor 10-18-2011 06:59 AM

Re: Feel road in steering
 
This thread makes automotive enthusiasts cry

jp467 10-18-2011 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by r0tor (Post 500347)
This thread makes automotive enthusiasts cry


It shouldn't... road feel might be a bad way to describe it, but when you drive over rough pavement some of that should be isolated from the steering. The steering wheel should not shudder back and forth.

to maxzhukov: I have an Overland with 20" wheels, and it seems most of the people complaining about this on here have an overland. How far did you drive that Overland? Because I have noticed it seem more noticeable after driving for a while. I had the intermdiate shaft replaced once, but it was not the new one with the green dot. It did take care of the thud but I still feel this shudder sometimes over the rough stuff. When I go in for the next oil change I going to ask them to order the new shaft with the green dot.

r0tor 10-18-2011 07:18 PM

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The feel and feedback in the steering wheel is the most critical aspect of a good performance vehicle. It's the thing that lets a driver take an automobile to the edge and back off just when he feels the tires give out in the wheel and adjust that limit depending on the surface he feels in the wheel.

Maxzhukov 10-19-2011 11:14 AM

Re: Feel road in steering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jp467 (Post 500519)
It shouldn't... road feel might be a bad way to describe it, but when you drive over rough pavement some of that should be isolated from the steering. The steering wheel should not shudder back and forth.

to maxzhukov: I have an Overland with 20" wheels, and it seems most of the people complaining about this on here have an overland. How far did you drive that Overland? Because I have noticed it seem more noticeable after driving for a while. I had the intermdiate shaft replaced once, but it was not the new one with the green dot. It did take care of the thud but I still feel this shudder sometimes over the rough stuff. When I go in for the next oil change I going to ask them to order the new shaft with the green dot.

I agree with you!
I owned a lexus and 3-er bmw before this Jeep and they both had a clear steering without this extra road feeling and at the same time - nice feedback. Even Overland that I've tested had the same pleasant feel - that's why I'm sure that my jeep has some problems with steering or front suspension or whatever.
I think there is no need to change shaft as long as you don't have that thud already.
I drove Overland for 10 miles may be, but after I've passed first 10 meters of rough pavement on low speed near dealership it came clear to me, how should the normal steering feel - it is solid. And then I done the same route with my Jeep... The difference was huge. This problem seems to appear when the road has small defects or when the road is made of stones/bricks - on such a road I feel that there is some gap in steering/suspension and steering fells is loose.

jp467 10-19-2011 06:41 PM

Re: Feel road in steering
 
Does your Limited have the air suspension? Also was there any difference in the feel between the intermediate shaft with the green dot and the one without?


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