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BobT 11-06-2011 06:10 PM

Metric or not?
 
Perhaps a silly question form a newbie. I'm seriously thinking about buying a new GC. I like working on cars but have never owned an American built car before. My tool-kit is entirely metric. I have no desire to buy weird sized tools. Someone please tell me that new Jeeps are all metric!

BobT 11-06-2011 07:14 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
OK, I've got the answer from Wikipedia. I seems sanity prevails in the US auto industry:arms:

Andrew Klossner 11-06-2011 07:15 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
It's hard to say. Jeep still hasn't released a service manual for the 2011 model year.

moosehead 11-06-2011 07:56 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
It's largely metric, but there's enough Detroit heritage to have a mix of US customary.

Those plastic plugs that hold much of the interior panels together are Polish (no offense).

robpp 11-06-2011 08:03 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Klossner (Post 510260)
It's hard to say. Jeep still hasn't released a service manual for the 2011 model year.

you ever see a service manual that said 'use a 3/4 inch 6 point socket?'



they say REMOVE THE BOLT





OP you will most likely need SOME standard tools. AND PLEASE dont call the AMERICAN INCH BASED TOOLS AND MEASUREMENT SYSTEM "WEIRD"


it is the US System; the metirc CRAP never caught on. you buy GAS IN US GALLONS not liters. A can of beer is 12 ounces, ETC.

Andrew Klossner 11-06-2011 09:29 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robpp (Post 510309)
you ever see a service manual that said 'use a 3/4 inch 6 point socket?'

Sure. Haven't you? Just opening one at random: the service manual for my 1993 Dodge Grand Caravan, page 2-14, figure 4 calls for a 1-1/2" socket.

Lingohocken 11-06-2011 09:59 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Klossner (Post 510260)
It's hard to say. Jeep still hasn't released a service manual for the 2011 model year.

Presumably it exists for factory dealer techs? Hate to think they are flying by the seat of their pants!

Time for some book bootlegging -- booklegging?

Jeeters 11-06-2011 10:46 PM

Re: Metric or not?
 
I thought it's already been said that there will be no paper or even PDF edition of the manual.
It's available to techs in online version only via some online service.

Sparro 11-07-2011 12:16 AM

Re: Metric or not?
 
Actually the imperial system our American neighbors use is English and comes from England, its not an American made system.
I am under the belief that the entire automotive industry is now standardized to the metric system as is most manufacturing, military, aerospace... etc.

brianm929 11-07-2011 12:46 AM

Re: Metric or not?
 
I have purchased kits for installing the factory tow hooks, mud flaps and block heater. Most everything lists sizes in metric.

robpp 11-07-2011 01:21 AM

Re: Metric or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Klossner (Post 510732)
Sure. Haven't you? Just opening one at random: the service manual for my 1993 Dodge Grand Caravan, page 2-14, figure 4 calls for a 1-1/2" socket.


maybe some haynes or something. I personally have never seen a automakers manual that listed the size of the tool UNLESS it was some very specialty thing. from the wk 2007 manual:

SHOCK
DESCRIPTION
REMOVAL
RIGHT FRONT
1. Remove the air box cover and air intake hose.
2. Disconnect the cruise control servo electrical connector.
3. Remove the coolant reservoir mounting bolt and move the coolant reservoir off to the side.
4. Remove the four upper shock mounting nuts (1).
5. Raise and support the vehicle.
6. Remove the tire.
7. Remove the two brake caliper adapter bolts.
8. Support the brake caliper adaptor and caliper. Do not allow the caliper to hang by the brake hose.
9. Remove the disc brake rotor.
10. Remove the upper ball joint nut.
11. Separate the upper ball joint (2) from the knuckle
(3) using special tool 8677(1).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingohocken (Post 510746)
Presumably it exists for factory dealer techs? Hate to think they are flying by the seat of their pants!

Time for some book bootlegging -- booklegging?


there is ONE manual. it doesnt tell them which size tool to use. sorry /

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparro (Post 510852)
Actually the imperial system our American neighbors use is English and comes from England, its not an American made system.
I am under the belief that the entire automotive industry is now standardized to the metric system as is most manufacturing, military, aerospace... etc.



the english use whitworth and Imperial gallons........not the same as american/

Sparro 11-07-2011 11:15 AM

Re: Metric or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robpp (Post 510878)
the english use whitworth and Imperial gallons........not the same as american/

What I am saying is that the entire system and the language for matter of fact is English, and came from England. It was not invented by the United States. The US decided to change things up a bit such as changing the spelling of certain English words like "Colour" to "Color" and "Imperial Gallons" to "American Gallons".

Nevertheless, the entire manufacturing industry is basically standardized to metric. The Military and Space Agencies all use the metric system. The only thing basically left to change is at the end user level such as retail store, speed signs...


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