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aimpulsive 02-09-2012 07:43 AM

Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
At the front lower bumper on my 2012 Overland there are two openings that have been covered by pop-in covers (the covers have the cross hatching pattern that matches the air opening below the chrome grill).

I assume these two spots were for the front tow hooks, which I don't have and really don't need (I hope!).

However, I would be interested in adding driving lights with a bit more light than the standard lights that come with the WK2.

Has anyone seen any light kits that are made specifically to fit the size of these two openings? It seems a waste to not use these two pre-made slots!

CrzyAzn 02-09-2012 08:28 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
I put tow hooks there, since that's what they are made for and it IS a JEEP. And then added Xenon fogs. Much more light output then the whimpy little bulbs they use for fogs. Do you really need 6 driving lights?

frog_a_lot 02-09-2012 08:57 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
The 2012s (least in Aus) you CANT put tow hooks there. there is no holes in the chasis for them. The front end was modified for safety concerns

aimpulsive 02-09-2012 09:43 PM

Need six lights? I am not sure we do much out of need! But, I do find the wk2 lights a bit short on throw compared to the piaa driving lights on my weekend roadster, especially on dark dirt roads where deer and other critters are lurking.

But really...why not! :)

Fellows 02-12-2012 07:24 AM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
The OEM fog lights are "wimpy" because they are fog lights. Fog lights are not supposed to be as bright or brighter than your headlights.

CrzyAzn 02-12-2012 10:28 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
I disagree. They are a driving light, why would they not be as bright as the headlights? I agree they shouldn't be brighter. They are designed to throw light in a different area then the headlights for inclement weather, namely fog (hence the name), therefore are not meant to be aimed high, but low and directly in front of the car, between the car and where your headlights begin.

Fellows 02-13-2012 02:03 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrzyAzn (Post 572723)
I disagree. They are a driving light, why would they not be as bright as the headlights? I agree they shouldn't be brighter. They are designed to throw light in a different area then the headlights for inclement weather, namely fog (hence the name), therefore are not meant to be aimed high, but low and directly in front of the car, between the car and where your headlights begin.

I can't see why the area between your headlights and car need to be lit up. The headlights hit the road pretty close to the car, you probably won't be able to see that part of the road anyway due to the hood. Lower mounted fog lights are not necessary to throw light in other areas in front of your car. That function is provided by the headlight housing. If they wanted light right in front of your car, they would have just designed the housing to do so.

The way a fog light works is projecting low beams that cut through the fog. Next time its foggy out, try your highbeams. It'll just reflect back at you and you'll see a bunch of lit up fog and not see anything beyond it.

If you don't have fog lights, driving manuals will tell you to drive with your low beams on. Fog lights on the other hand are an added feature that add even lower beams to cut further through the fog (this only works if your headlights are off). If a fog light is as bright as your headlights, then you just have another headlight mounted lower on your car that'll reflect twice the amount of glare right back at you. Its not an accident that OEM engineers designed the fogs at a lower wattage than your low beams.

You'll notice that on the Jeep you have the option to turn off headlights and just use your fogs. If they were true driving lights (which are strictly cosmetic and serve no other purpose) you'll only have the option to have them on with your headlights. So swapping out a low beam foglight for one with a higher beams is just trading a functional feature for a cosmetic one.

CrzyAzn 02-13-2012 09:26 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
I'm pretty sure I can see my foglights distinctively from my headlights when they are on. Not sure about you but in fog, especially the heavier it gets, headlights are useless, and yes never ever use your highbeams in foggy or high rain weather. They didn't design the light to shine right in front of your vehicle because you need the light thrown further under normal driving circumstances and don't need right in front of you so much, while when driving in fog, you will be at lower speeds and need to see right in front of you, which is where fog lights come in. The wattage doesn't have so much to do with it as does the Kelvin temperature of the beam. Many companies use headlight bulbs for fog light bulbs. I have 35w 3k Xenons for all my vehicle fog lights and yes it makes a massive difference over OEM fogs I've seen. As for "driving lights"/"fog lights" yes I'm sorry I used the wrong term as I don't really see a difference, and as they are an interchangeable term in common day terminology, they do have different definitions.

CrzyAzn 02-13-2012 09:38 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
At any rate, im done hijacking this thread for a pointless argument. To the OP, im not sure if they make "driving lights" that are the exact same size as that hole but Im sure you can find some that are close. Id just measure the opening and search online for dimensions of the massive amount of lights out there, im sure you can find something. And I doubt mounting would be too hard, just mount them to the frame horns where the hooks would normally be mounted. Pulling the bumper is definitely going to be a must, but its a piece of cake.

Magoomba 02-14-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimpulsive (Post 570418)
At the front lower bumper on my 2012 Overland there are two openings that have been covered by pop-in covers (the covers have the cross hatching pattern that matches the air opening below the chrome grill).

I assume these two spots were for the front tow hooks, which I don't have and really don't need (I hope!).

However, I would be interested in adding driving lights with a bit more light than the standard lights that come with the WK2.

Has anyone seen any light kits that are made specifically to fit the size of these two openings? It seems a waste to not use these two pre-made slots!

I'm placing a 30inch led sr light bar under there since the nudge bar my dealer sold me doesn't fit. Spoke to an engineering company and they can make a bracket to support the light bar, I needs the extra bright lights here in the Northern Territory, with 130 speed limit the more light at night the better, and it should look great under there.

12167jeep 02-14-2012 09:17 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
Post pics when you got that in, sounds interesting

frog_a_lot 02-14-2012 09:39 PM

Re: Add driving lights to WK2's two open spots in bumper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magoomba (Post 573931)
I'm placing a 30inch led sr light bar under there since the nudge bar my dealer sold me doesn't fit. Spoke to an engineering company and they can make a bracket to support the light bar, I needs the extra bright lights here in the Northern Territory, with 130 speed limit the more light at night the better, and it should look great under there.

ooohhhhh... deffinetely keep us informed, i like the sound of that


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