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Jeeters 03-28-2012 10:14 AM

Oil change indicator questions
 
Question 1: Is there any way on the EVIC to see an estimate (even if rough) on when the next oil change is due? For example, on my parents' Ford, it will give show them a percentage, something like 'oil has 80% of its life left'. I can't find anything in our EVIC like this. I looked at the user/owners manuals, too. It seems like just one day your EVIC suddenly starts hounding you to change it.

Question 2: If I take the vehicle to the dealer to get the oil changed BEFORE the indicator starts telling me to, then how do I know if the dealer reset the indicator or not? i.e., if I take the vehicle in and the indicator is active, then I get the vehicle back and now the indicator is gone, then obviously they reset it. But what if the indicator wasn't active in the first place?

BioCRD 03-28-2012 12:22 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
RE Question 2: After the oil is changed, just RESET the oil change due indicator system. See the Owner's Manual, pg 308.

Yadkin 03-28-2012 12:29 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
I liked the % left indicator on my Ford. It was handy when I had a big trip coming up so I could tell if I needed to change the oil before or else could wait. I don't see anything like that on my new Jeep. :mad:

americanbulldog 03-28-2012 12:37 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
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Originally Posted by BioCRD (Post 602380)
RE Question 2: After the oil is changed, just RESET the oil change due indicator system. See the Owner's Manual, pg 308.

Yeah but how do you know that it reset if it was never on to begin with?

Jeeters 03-28-2012 03:57 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by americanbulldog (Post 602387)
Yeah but how do you know that it reset if it was never on to begin with?

Exactly. If the indicator is on, then you know you did the reset procedure in the manual correctly if you successfully turn off the indicator. But if it was already off to begin with, how do you tell you successfullfy reset it?

the1jake 03-28-2012 05:57 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeters (Post 602561)
Exactly. If the indicator is on, then you know you did the reset procedure in the manual correctly if you successfully turn off the indicator. But if it was already off to begin with, how do you tell you successfullfy reset it?

Because you went through the procedure to reset it. You are sending commands to the onboard computer which receives those commands and does what is instructed to do. It's highly doubtful that the programmers put in code that tells the computer not to reset itself if the indicator light isn't on, even though it has received instructions to do so.

There are no visual cues. You'll know if you screwed up when the oil light comes on within a hundred miles or so. :lol:

JTS97Z28 03-28-2012 06:29 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
^^^ ehh im still not liking that. Reason being, some of these damn reset procedures require multiple steps to be done in a certain order and certain time. Thats unfortunate that Chrysler did not have a nice screen on the EVIC that shows oil life remaining. I usually changed my Acura TL's oil when the monitor said 20% remaining. Guess that wont be happening in my new Overland lol. Have to go off of mileage or when the monitor says to.

James

Jeeters 03-28-2012 06:35 PM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the1jake (Post 602648)
Because you went through the procedure to reset it.

Oh, I did?

I'm not questioning if the software works; I'm questioning how does somebody know if they followed the procedures correctly?

Quote:

There are no visual cues. You'll know if you screwed up when the oil light comes on within a hundred miles or so. :lol:
That's what I was wondering. i.e., if there are any visual clues anywhere of when it's been reset or what the oil life is. Sounds like 'no'. :(

tnjeep 03-29-2012 08:24 AM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
I had the same problem when I changed mine last week at 2,000 miles. I first thought I was doing something wrong because there was nothing on the EVIC or a chime to let me know that I had succesfully reset it. My chevy truck has the same procedure for resetting the OCR but it chimes a few times and the "EVIC" flashes a few times to let me know no matter if the oil change light was on or off when I do reset it. Jeep should've done a better job on this.

americanbulldog 03-31-2012 09:14 AM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
I'd be willing to bet that the computer keeps a log of the mileage and date that the indicator came on and then when it was reset. Therefore, you'd have to be able to prove that you changed the oil at that time (with dated receipts) and not just that you reset it because you failed to do the (unverifiable) reset sequence correctly when you changed the oil 2000 miles ago. From Chryslers standpoint, not changing your oil when the vehicle tells you to do so would definitely void a warranty claim for oil related engine problems down the road. Does anyone else see the problem here?

Yadkin 04-01-2012 08:20 AM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
The reset is not intuitive. My dealer changed my oil last time and 500 miles later the indicator came on. Then I had to go through the procedure twice to turn the indicator off.

americanbulldog 04-01-2012 10:34 AM

Re: Oil change indicator questions
 
There really needs to be a TSB for a software fix that allows the EVIC to signal that the indicator was reset correctly even if it was not on to begin with. In this day and age it shouldn't be that difficult to come up with a simple programming solution. Are you listening, Chrysler?


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