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09WK 11-12-2009 10:24 AM

Building my system
 
I am getting readying to put some subs in the trunk of my 09 wk with the boston system. i will probably upgrade the whole system eventually but this is first.
I want to put two 12s or two 10s in the trunk, I like alpine type R and kicker comp VR, and maybe even two 12 alpine type x. but I am new to subs so ill take any advice. I want to know how much power (watts) I will need to get two 12s to their potential.
2 type R 10 inch - watts?
2 type R 12 inch - watts?
2 kicker Comp VR 10s - watts?
2 kicker Comp VR 12s - watts?
2 type x 12 inch- watts?

What amp would you recommend? How about this?
http://www.amazon.com/Kenwood-KAC-91...2443206&sr=8-1

Interested in any recommendations

Help
Please

Matt 11-12-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Building my system
 
First, welcome to the forum!

I challenge you to explore the idea of using a sub woofer that cannot be bought at big box stores. You will certainly get a higher quality driver for a usually better price. Just something to think about.

What are your goals? Loud (SPL), loud, but sound good (SQL), not necessarily deafning, and sound good (SQ). I hate using these terms/classifications, but it seems like the best way to determine in this case.

Amplifier selection will soley depend on the voice coil configuration of your sub woofer(s). Sub woofer selection must come before amplifier selection.

I know it can be hard, but try not to get all caught up on wattage. To think there is a considerable audible difference between 600 watts and 1,000 watts is foolish. Everytime you double your power, you only increase by 3 decibels. Picking an efficient driver (or maximizing cone area) and utilizing an efficient enclosure will greatly reduce the amount of power you will need.

08Hemi 11-12-2009 12:12 PM

Re: Building my system
 
Matt you rock. How much do you want to spend? I am really happy with the recommendation Matt gave me: 10" SSA Icon sub and Sundown 1000 amp. I wanted the ability to bump with superior sound quality ALL with taking up the least amount of space...I got a 1.0 cu^ft 10" box and it is PERFECT! Give Matt the info he needs and he will give you a great recommendation! Good luck

Matt 11-12-2009 12:31 PM

Re: Building my system
 
haha, thanks Brad. The Icon is tought sub to beat. It gets louder than you'd ever need and sounds beautiful with it's pulp fiber cone.

White WK Swagga 11-12-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Building my system
 
Brad I may follow you. You seem very happy with the results. Give me your shopping list... LOL

09WK 11-12-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Building my system
 
Im willing to spend a decent amount of money because I want it loud and hitting hard. quality is important but Id rather have it hitting hard. My friend is running type x and I think hes got an alpine PDX 1.600. I would like something hitting harder then that

08Hemi 11-12-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Building my system
 
I spent $800 total on my setup. here is my build log and parts...

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f50/stereo-install-2075.html

I wanted a space-saving set-up that would not totally break the bank but I did not want to skimp either. I used to have a 15" audiobahn in my Dakota and while that def pounded my chest more, my SSA Icon gives 10X more quality bass and is 80-90% of the "bumpage" (word I made up)...and another thing about my set-up: I can turn the gain all the way up and the sub does not distort, and with the gain all the way it is damn clsoe to how hard my 15" hit!!! BUT I listen to Matt and right now the gain is a little less than half-way!!!

Matt 11-12-2009 02:45 PM

Re: Building my system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 09WK (Post 98012)
Im willing to spend a decent amount of money because I want it loud and hitting hard. quality is important but Id rather have it hitting hard. My friend is running type x and I think hes got an alpine PDX 1.600. I would like something hitting harder then that

How much space are you willing to lose?

I'd shoot for a single 15" driver... but you're looking at a minimum of 3 cubic feet being taken up.

09WK 11-12-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Building my system
 
Space is not really an issue, what models of subs should i look at, any pictures of what you all have? and specs?

I was also offered two mtx thunder 9500 12 inch, no box but in good condition. aNyone have experience with these?

Matt 11-12-2009 08:52 PM

Re: Building my system
 
Well if loud and clean is what you want and money isn't a huge factor then you really can't go wrong with this combo...

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...00D-COMBO.html

Do note that the enclosure will take up your entire cargo area.

08Hemi 11-12-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Building my system
 
OH MAN!! I can't even imagine how sweet that set-up would be! So do you have a pic Matt of an enclosure in an SUV that is what this bad boy requires? 3.0 cu ft?

Enclosure Recommendations:

Sealed: 2.0 - 2.25 cu.ft.
Sealed: 2.75 - 3.0 cu.ft. optimal
Ported: 3.0 - 3.25 cu.ft. @ 26-33 hz
Ported: 4.0 cu.ft. @ 26-33hz opt.
Sub Outside Dia.: 15.625”
Cut Inside Dia.: 14.125”
Displacement: 0.20 cu.ft.

Matt 11-12-2009 09:51 PM

Re: Building my system
 
I havne't modeled the t/s parameters, but I'm guessing that 4 cube enclosure is a flatter/better response. 4 cubes + port and driver displacement + wood displacement = the entire rear cargo area. That's something you have in your car for a year and then decide that having an SUV without any cargo space is worthless and that having a LOUD sub woofer system is really not all that it's cracked up to be. You get sick of it real fast and discover that you are usually listening to it at "normal" volumes so you can hear vocals and whatnot. It's one of those impulse buys you regret down the road.


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