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russ71 05-27-2012 04:16 PM

2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
Though I found lots of helpful info here before I did my own install in my 2012 5.7L 4wd Overland, none of it matched my situation perfectly, so I thought Iíd share what worked and what didnít.

What Worked
My Valentine 1 hangs from factory suction cups up close to the headliner on the driver's side where it has a clear view up high to the front and back, and it doesnít interfere with the flip-down sunshade. It runs dark because I have a remote display that I've mounted low, centered between the tach and speedo.

Iíve had my V1 for years, moving it from vehicle to vehicle in South Louisiana heat, and never once had it release from the windshield. The secret is cleaning the suction cups and glass at the mounting spot with a little rubbing alcohol.

Wiring is via Invisicord tapped into the mirror harness -- a 20-connector plug. Ground is the silver-orange wire at upper right when you view the plug from the wire side with the latch up. I got 12 volts with the ignition on using the pink-green (looks blue-green) wire that youíll find in the 3rd slot from left on the bottom row, again viewed from the wire side with the latch up.

FYI: The green-yellow wire in the 5th slot from left on the bottom row (again viewed from the wire side with the latch up) looks like it'll supply 12 volts with the ignition on, too.

Note about the Invisicord: I had to use a Dremel tool to grind down the pins slightly. I made them a little narrower and a little thinner to fit the openings in the back of the wiring harness plug. I think Invisicord offers a "mini" connector option, but they didn't mention the Jeep in their limited write-up, so I didn't think to try that option. You might want to do so, but keep in mind that I haven't seen it and can't be sure it'll work.

Also, I modded the Invisicord to supply power to Valentine's accessory module. No big deal if you're comfortable stripping and soldering very small telephone wire conductors, and using heat-shrink insulation. If not, send your accessory module to Invisicord and they'll do that for you.

I tucked the module through a square opening in the black sheet metal that holds the overhead console. The Invisicord from the mirror plug is wire-tied to the factory harness that runs up into a small opening between the headliner and the windshield, all of it under the black plastic cover that you can snap apart for access with a trim tool.

What Didnít Work
Although I used a voltmeter, and the hot wire I picked from those in the overhead console showed 12 volts with the ignition on, after my first install I discovered that it didnít immediately go dead with the ignition off. With the overhead console lights off, that same wire pulsed from 0-12 volts a couple of times per second after the ignition was turned off.

I didnít realize that until Iíd finished the install. Everything worked great with the ignition on, but when I turned the ignition off, the detector chirped every time the voltage peaked. It would eventually quit when the vehicle electrical system timed out, or when I turned on an overhead console light. Weird.

The mirror harness wiring solved the problem.

elp_jc 05-28-2012 10:58 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
This is exactly what I needed; thanks a lot man. By the way, I ordered the BlendMount mounting bracket, which positions the detector below the mirror, and it's adjustable in every direction (and no more bouncing or unsightly suction cups :D). And also ordered the "MirrorTap' cable with the MICRO leads and in 12" in length. It must be an Invisicord competitor. Or maybe the same? Both the mount and cable are of exceptional quality, with the cable even having a built-in fuse for radar detector safety. The mount is all anodized aluminum. Very light, and attaches to the mirror stem.

You saved me some time playing with the multimeter :thumbsup:. By the way, BlendMount's site doesn't mention the MirrorTap for our car (also a 2012 Overland 5.7L here), but am positive it'll work, and the 'door' will close with the micro terminals. Will confirm when I get it installed. Thanks again for your great help.

russ71 05-29-2012 11:10 AM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
It wasn't clear from your post whether you'd received the mount yet. When you do, let me know how the Blend Mount works. I didn't order one because the mirror stem on the WK2 comes in from the top and didn't seem to be compatible with the mount I saw on their web site. But if it is, I might just spring for one.

BTW, I think the Blend Mount folks get their wiring from Invisicord, so you should be getting good cabling. I'm especially interested in how the micro version fits into the tiny slots on the back of the plug.

I did have to bend my modified connectors slightly to allow the door on the back of the mirror to close, but that was no big deal.

elp_jc 05-29-2012 04:30 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by russ71 (Post 636025)
I didn't order one because the mirror stem on the WK2 comes in from the top and didn't seem to be compatible with the mount I saw on their web site.

I'm especially interested in how the micro version fits into the tiny slots on the back of the plug.

Hey man, you were right on the mount. I never saw the bottom of their page, where the 'incompatible' mirror was pictured. But the engineer in me questioned how it was going to be attached, and called BlendMount before ordering it. They told me there were 2 different 'Type 1' mirrors. A friend of mine had already ordered his based on the top of the ordering page, where a very similar mirror with a door was listed. Anyway, they're going to include the 'incompatible' mirror with the first set of pictures to avoid returning orders. No mount for the WK2 Overlands :mad:. Oh well.

As far as the cable, I'm 99% positive the 'micro' one will work perfectly because the back of the connectors (where you push them) are very short. I tested the connectors themselves and they worked perfectly, but didn't try closing the door (looks like it should close easily though). They go in with just enough pressure to make it easy to push, but hard to come out by themselves. You just have to remember securing them with one of the included zipties. I'll let you know for sure if it worked when I get the cable later this week.

As far as the length, now that I can't put the RD under the mirror, will put it to the left of the mirror, as high as possible (clearing the dot matrix, since suction cups don't stay there). And 12" would be barely enough, but since we can hide any excess cable inside the little door, it was safer to get a 15" one, and that's the one I recommend :thumbsup:. Plus they cost the same :D.

Finally,

russ71 05-29-2012 06:29 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
That's good news. I'm glad you didn't order something that wouldn't work. Try my alcohol tip and the suction cups might work for you until the Blend Mount guys work out a fit.

MET_II 05-30-2012 12:20 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
I have been looking at the Blendmount solution for my 2011 Overland (same incompatible vertical stem mirror). I've asked them for an ETA if/when they will make a Blendmount compatible mount and will share that ETA if they provide it.

I've been searching for an alternative to Blendmount for mirror mounting but haven't found anything I would actually try.

I plan on ordering the "Micro" tap (says on website it comes in 9" or 12") to use with the eventual Blendmount solution. Is the "tapping" pretty straightforward into the proper connectors russ71 mentioned above? Obviously, I'm novice at wiring and haven't opened the mirror yet... but I can follow instruction so I wanted to confirm.

russ71 05-30-2012 06:55 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
Yes, it's easy. Just double-check to make sure you're pushing the taps into the proper connections, and push straight in until you feel significant resistance. Then plug the other end into your V1 and turn it on. It should operate normally with the ignition on. If not, try again.

five.7 Hemi 05-30-2012 09:35 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
Some really good info here....thanks guys.

MET_II 05-31-2012 08:26 AM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
Guys, heard back from Blendmount yesterday evening and not good news for our W2K mirrors...

"There's nothin in the works for that type mirror, and not sure there will be.
Bummer,
Frank"

So I guess maybe the micro mirror tap and one of the super suction cups (which I dislike) and hope it stays? Any other ideas?

russ71 05-31-2012 11:16 AM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
I found several links to other mounting ideas. Here's one that involves a home made angle bracket and adhesive that will stick to the black dot area at the top center of the windshield:

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=58501

Here's one that mounts on the sun visor, which I don't care for but may suit others:

http://www.southerncarparts.com/cama...nt-p-2653.html

And here's one from this site that has some good pictures of a 2011 install. It's the one that I used to tap into the overhead console light wiring -- which didn't work for me.

http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=16517

I hope this helps.

Ratchet 05-31-2012 12:46 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
I have installed quite a few detectors to the left of the roof console as mentioned above. Most of them came with the dual suction cup bracket which is pretty much straight forward. Wiring is a different story if your unit isn't cordless/rechargeable.
For power, I decided not to tamper with the mirror harness and opted to tap into the power for the 12vdc outlet beneath the radio.

Yes, it takes a bit more wire to complete the connection, but that location has a few more amps to spare vs that of the mirror connection.

five.7 Hemi 06-03-2012 09:55 PM

Re: 2012 Grand Cherokee WK2 Valentine 1 Radar Detector Install
 
Has anyone used the new V1 Savvy adapter?

http://www.valentine1.com/savvy/


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