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xjrob 12-08-2009 11:29 PM

So many choices
 
Well im in the market for some music for my XJ. So far i have a pioneer 6500 dvd, pioneer 5 1/4 speakers in the front n Kicker 6 1/2 in the roof. The kickers finally kicked and the only beats im gettin r from the pio's. I have a box but its way too big for what i need, that and its a 1600w sub in a blown box pushed by a 1000w amp. Im lookin to do all one brand. Im either goin JL Audio components in the front wit full range in the rear and a JL Audio 8"sub inside and xj pod along with JL amps and a Kenwood radio. That or go all Alpine with an Alpine Type S 10" in a sub enclosure, speakers, and Alpine V-power amps and an Alpine head unit. Not really sure what route to take. Any help from you guys.

Motteler621 12-08-2009 11:36 PM

Re: So many choices
 
i owned a 12" alpine type s for awhile and a jl audio w3v3. The only thing the alpine is good for is rap. It was kind of loud but no quality to the sound of it. The jl audio sub's sq is really, really good compared but not quite as loud. When buying jl audio you are mainly getting SQ.

Matt 12-08-2009 11:38 PM

Re: So many choices
 
Between the two I'd go JL, but if you're willing to expand your options I wouldn't opt for either. Much better equipment can be had for less, but that means you'll likely have to incorporate more than one brand.

What exactly are your goals? What are you expecting to get from a stereo upgrade? What would you like to gain?

Matt 12-08-2009 11:43 PM

Re: So many choices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Motteler621 (Post 113962)
i owned a 12" alpine type s for awhile and a jl audio w3v3. The only thing the alpine is good for is rap. It was kind of loud but no quality to the sound of it. The jl audio sub's sq is really, really good compared but not quite as loud. When buying jl audio you are mainly getting SQ.

All of this subjectivity is really dependent on the enclosure these woofers were housed in and what settings were used on the amp (and headunit).

An enclosure is the absolute most important thing for a speaker to sound right. I can make a $50 woofer sound better than a $500 woofer simply with the proper enclosure.

You really can't blanket statement a company as being more geared towards SQ or this or that. As I said before, it solely depends on how the equipment is installed and tuned.

(Don't think I'm picking on you - just getting the info out there) :)

Matt 12-08-2009 11:43 PM

Re: So many choices
 
Also, what's your budget for everything?

xjrob 12-08-2009 11:46 PM

Re: So many choices
 
i listen to alot of rock and house music, and rap of course but mostly rock and house. i used to do systems for a livin but i got out of the game about 5 yrs ago when i left my old job to do security.

Motteler621 12-08-2009 11:50 PM

Re: So many choices
 
yea your right matt. You can make a 500 sub sound like crap if its not put in the proper box and installed correctly. Im just saying the alpine type s sound quality cant compare to the jl audio w3v3. I had both put in the boxes that were recommended for them (space, sealed or ported etc). As soon as I had the jl audio put in a sealed box i noticed a huge improvment in the sq. I later put it in a box by jl audio that was the correct dimensions for it and ported with supposedly makes the w3v3 subs sound the best. It was a slight improvement in the loudless and a slight different tone.

Motteler621 12-08-2009 11:53 PM

Re: So many choices
 
besides the alpine type s isnt really on the same level as the w3v3, i think the alpine type R is the one to compare it with. same level

Motteler621 12-08-2009 11:58 PM

Re: So many choices
 
if I were u xjrob I would take Matts advise on which sub to get over the alpine type s. I think you will be disapointed with it when its all said and done.

Matt 12-08-2009 11:59 PM

Re: So many choices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xjrob (Post 113973)
i listen to alot of rock and house music, and rap of course but mostly rock and house. i used to do systems for a livin but i got out of the game about 5 yrs ago when i left my old job to do security.

Ah, gotcha. I'd imagine something like a nice set of components up front, rears if you so choose (though getting anything nice would be a waste), either a 5-channel amp or a 4 channel + mono, and a nice compact sub system.

If you wanted to go Alpine, you could do their Type-X components, Type-S coaxials, PDX-5 amplifier, and the Type-R 10" sub woofer. That'd be a pretty rockin' stereo. The JL equivalent will cost more than twice as much and probably not sound any better.

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Originally Posted by Motteler621 (Post 113975)
yea your right matt. You can make a 500 sub sound like crap if its not put in the proper box and installed correctly. Im just saying the alpine type s sound quality cant compare to the jl audio w3v3. I had both put in the boxes that were recommended for them (space, sealed or ported etc). As soon as I had the jl audio put in a sealed box i noticed a huge improvment in the sq. I later put it in a box by jl audio that was the correct dimensions for it and ported with supposedly makes the w3v3 subs sound the best. It was a slight improvement in the loudless and a slight different tone.

Then in that case, I see value in your thoughts about the woofers :) A lot of times people just throw them in random pre-fabs and are disappointed when they don't get what they expect. I prematurely made that assumption. :thumbsup:

Matt 12-08-2009 11:59 PM

Re: So many choices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Motteler621 (Post 113977)
besides the alpine type s isnt really on the same level as the w3v3, i think the alpine type R is the one to compare it with. same level

Yeah, that's probably a more fair comparison.

Matt 12-09-2009 12:00 AM

Re: So many choices
 
Rob, what type of speaker locations are you working with (sizes)...?


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