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TheStreet16 09-29-2012 06:54 PM

Current Issues:
 
First issue: Every now and then I lose power to my dash/radio and eventually it comes back. However, when it does this all of my needles go from the left allllll the way to the right. Essentially they go from resting at 7 o'clock to about 5 o'clock and then bounce back. PROBLEM: My tachometer for whatever reason went all the way around and now is stuck under the needle resting thing (i can provide a picture if this doesnt make sense). Not a big issue but it bugs me and I can't figure out how to get it back.

Bigger Issue: This is the second time this has happened. I get in and turn the Jeep over and it cranks and turns over but it doesn't idle. So I put key in, turn key, engine cranks and turns over and then goes :sleepy:. Its sounds like its running out of gas. To overcome this I have to feather the gas and keep her revving and then throw it into gear and get it moving. Once it's moving, it idles fine. No fault codes pop up.

Duff Daddy 09-29-2012 07:01 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
The idle thing is uber common complaint especially with the gauge issue, test your battery, its more then likely giving less then the needed 12v to run the vehicle. Do a full draw and load test and I guarentee it will fail on a mid-tronics tester.

Frango100 09-29-2012 09:16 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
For the needle which is resting on the wrong side of the stop, do the instrument self test. With ignition switch in off, push the odometer button and switch the ignition in on. The instrument self test will start and all needles will move and lamps will be lit. As soon as the test start, you can release the odometer button.

TheStreet16 10-25-2012 02:11 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
So this is occurring more commonly. I have fixed the needle/gauge issue since then. When I'm driving my headlights will flicker when the subs hit and within seconds the entire dash cuts out. If I turn down my volume, headlights still flicker but nothing cuts out. This was happening maybe once every 3 to 4 weeks and now it's down to about every 2 weeks.

As well, the engine did its thing again where it would idle if I was revving and of course I was about to get in stop and go traffic. that was an adventure.

Does this mean my battery is going or something else?

ekaz 10-25-2012 02:30 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
Did you test the battery as was suggested a couple weeks ago? It can be the battery and/or altenator.

TheStreet16 10-25-2012 02:49 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
No all of my tools and equipment are buried in the garage. We're remodeling and well...it's a mess. Would a local shop carry it or should I try out a car electronic spot?

ekaz 10-25-2012 02:51 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
Most auto parts stores will test the battery for free.

TheStreet16 11-05-2012 02:34 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
Ok I'll go to local store and ask them to test.

I've noticed that when the dash cuts out, my voltage meter drops down from its normal position (around 14) to down around 12ish and then comes back up to 14. It then repeats for the next few minutes then disappears.

Updates regarding engine issue :

I turn the key once to activate the gauges and everything, the voltage meter moves to around 12 and then on a normal start, once it cranks over and idles the needle moves towards its normal position. When it decides to die, needle never moves from 12.

If I sit there and just crank it then let it die. After about 10/15 times it will start normal with no issues. I've been trying to get a video of both when it happens but no luck so far.

Also, I was sitting at a red light yesterday and Jeep just died. Could this be a fuel filter issue possibly?

donddon 11-05-2012 03:41 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
On a different car that I owned (KIA Amanti) I had the same issues with the idle, I had to turn it on and immediately put in gear and rev. Turns out I needed a new Mass Air Flow Sensor.*** May be the issue for you??? ***

Evan5469 11-05-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
Definitely sounds like a battery or alternator going out. This could be causing all of your problems as well.

An alternator needs to be putting out a minimum of 12 volts to charge the battery. If you're running a system (you mentioned subs, so I'm assuming you are) then the alternator has extra requirements it needs to meet. With your lights dimming and gages not working correctly at all times I am 99% certain it is either the battery or alternator.

Also, another possible solution to your starting and not staying running/dying at a stop could be the IAC valve. I've had one that never gave a code that it wasn't working properly but I changed it out after dying at stops and it solved my problem. Just a thought.

TheStreet16 11-05-2012 06:09 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
Thanks to both of you for responding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donddon (Post 707300)
On a different car that I owned (KIA Amanti) I had the same issues with the idle, I had to turn it on and immediately put in gear and rev. Turns out I needed a new Mass Air Flow Sensor.*** May be the issue for you??? ***

Sounds similar. I don't have to throw in gear, I just have to rev it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan5469 (Post 707324)
Definitely sounds like a battery or alternator going out. This could be causing all of your problems as well.

An alternator needs to be putting out a minimum of 12 volts to charge the battery. If you're running a system (you mentioned subs, so I'm assuming you are) then the alternator has extra requirements it needs to meet. With your lights dimming and gages not working correctly at all times I am 99% certain it is either the battery or alternator.

Also, another possible solution to your starting and not staying running/dying at a stop could be the IAC valve. I've had one that never gave a code that it wasn't working properly but I changed it out after dying at stops and it solved my problem. Just a thought.

Correct running 2 12s.

I'm not getting any codes so good to know about the IAC valve. I'm gonna look into the battery first then alternator. How difficult to change the IAC?

TheStreet16 11-06-2012 01:38 PM

Re: Current Issues:
 
Finally got a video of engine idle issue. (clicky on the screenshots)

-I ran a check for codes while this was occuring, you'll see in the video that nothing pops up; just "done".

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1092-1.jpg

Continuation from first video. I just take my foot off the gas and death occurs.

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/...h_IMG_1093.jpg

As soon as I have some free time, I am going to have my battery tested. This is occuring more frequently and don't really wanna get stuck anywhere with a dead car.


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