Jeep Garage  - Jeep Forum

Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum (http://www.jeepgarage.org/forums.php)
-   Grand Cherokee - WK2 - (http://www.jeepgarage.org/f73/)
-   -   Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy (http://www.jeepgarage.org/f73/fiat-may-move-chrysler-and-jeep-production-to-italy-49564.html)

dubwarren 10-29-2012 12:45 PM

Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/10/29/f...may-move-italy


The article says fiat is considering moving jeep production to Italy for export to the U.S.

Incredible.




Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk

Marlon_JB2 10-29-2012 12:54 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
Again, this is just to complement US production, this does not mean that production in the US will be shut down in favor of Italy.

That's what these articles fail to mention.

As of right now, and with upcoming models, Chrysler's production capacity is severely strained.

Jefferson North Assembly: 3 crews
Windsor Assembly: 3 shifts
Belvidere Assembly: 3 crews
Warren Truck Assembly: 2 shifts, soon to be 3 crews.
Toledo Complex: 2 shifts, 10 hours, 6 days per week, Wrangler Side, Liberty side currently shut down for retooling, 2nd shift imminent.
Sterling Heights Assembly: 2 shifts, possible 3 crews in the future depending on future sales of their new car coming very, very soon.
Indiana Transmission/Casting: 3 crews (sorry I can't remember which is running what right now, but at least one of the plants is running like crazy)
Trenton Engine: 3 crews

You get where I'm going with this?

In order to keep production up with demand, Italy has to help.

dubwarren 10-29-2012 01:16 PM

I hope you're right. Hopefully this article is mis-stating fiat's plans about moving production to Italy to export to the u.s.


Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk

Aiyer 10-29-2012 02:06 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
I would like to see that news reported in a Car magazine instead of some opinionated blog. I do not think the writer is correct about Jeep production moving to Italy. Also, I would like to see the entire transcript of what the CEO said instead of just one or two lines which could be taken out of context.

US being the biggest market, it would not make any sense for Chrysler to build vehicles in a country outside and then ship them across the ocean. While companies like toyota and BMW are building in the US as it is cheaper for them to cater the local market, I highly doubt that Jeep will shut down its Toledo plant after putting a ton of $$ in its upgrading. Does not make any business sense.

Also , coming at the heels of the China production news, I am pretty sure the news of Jeep production moving to Italy is incorrect.

Cheers,
-S

padgett 10-29-2012 02:44 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
Looking at the overall mix, FIAT (europe) lacks a "large" car in the Ford Mondeo (uk) class. Alpha 159/Dodge Dart is considered overweight like most American cars. At the same time they do not want our 4000+ lb behemouths over there, only a few can afford the fuel costs and taxes.

What they have is 500s and Pandas. Some with engines under 1 liter (twinair).

So what would make sense is to produce some of our platforms that might do well "over there". Think under 3700 lbs - Dart, Chrysler 200, Jeep Liberty/Patriot . Ones that are not selling well here might be candidates for import from Italy.

OTOH GALBs would not be candidates since major sales are in the US: Charger, 300, GC, Wrangler. Export the small numbers salable would make sense.

Some may be produced in both Europe and US - lighter smaller engines more with manual trans in EU, larger models with automatics standard here. A lot would depend on projected sales vs certification costs & mix in "family" certs then stir well. Am sure a computer could predice optimum mixes.

So if you look at it from a logical rather than all-or-nothing case it makes a lot of sense. Of course we always overreact to everything.

bill_de 10-29-2012 03:58 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
I think that the folks who write a lot of this stuff, do so to force the CEO to make a statement on a topic that isn't ready to be discussed. The article did say that the Italian government was going to give rebates to companies who export. Italy does need to bring revenue into the company.

So, it's possible they will build some vehicles for export. I for one, and I hope many others, would boycott the company if they moved any significant amount of production out of the U.S.

GCOverland 10-29-2012 04:29 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubwarren (Post 704261)
AUTO BAILOUT BOMBSHELL: Fiat Says Chrysler, Jeep Production May Move to Italy | National Legal and Policy Center


The article says fiat is considering moving jeep production to Italy for export to the U.S.

Incredible.




Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk

"Mitt Romney has rightfully criticized the Obama Administration for handing over Chrysler to the Italians and now leaving the fate of American workers in the hands of Fiat management."

That's where I stopped reading because I knew the article was biased. What was the official comment from Chrysler to the China-claim? "A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments".:lol:

Marlon_JB2 10-30-2012 04:06 AM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
Here's your answer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysler Group LLC
Company statement regarding China production of Jeep® vehicles
OCTOBER 26, 2012, 3:51 PM • COMPANY, JEEP • RETIREE

In response to erroneous media reports that the Chrylser Group is considering relocating production of Jeep® brand vehicles from North America to China, Gualberto Ranieri, Senior Vice President―Communications) posted the following comment on the company’s media blog:

On Oct. 22, 2012, at 11:10 a.m. Eastern time, the Bloomberg News report “Fiat Says Jeep® Output May Return to China as Demand Rises” stated, “Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio.

“Manley (Michael Manley, President and CEO―Jeep brand) referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.”

Despite clear and accurate reporting, the Bloomberg report has given rise to a number of stories making readers believe that Chrysler plans to shift all Jeep production to China from North America, and therefore idle assembly lines and U.S. work force.

To set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China. It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation.


chucksc 10-30-2012 03:32 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
I read the "move" to Italy as a way to augment US Production (which is already at or near capacity) without building new plants by using available (under used) capacity in Europe.... Also there are probably tax advantages to building Eurospec vehicles in the EU same as adding capacity to China for sales in China.....


P.S. US capacity freed up by China and EU production will probably be absorbed rather quickly for the US Market IMO...

JohnS 10-30-2012 05:06 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
... and the final word(s) ...

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f73/messag...ion-49625.html

xk4wd 10-30-2012 05:51 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
Confused. Things will probably make more sense after next Tuesday.

Milous 10-30-2012 07:08 PM

Re: Fiat may move Chrysler and jeep production to Italy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xk4wd (Post 704879)
Confused. Things will probably make more sense after next Tuesday.

Confused about?...


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community