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WindsorDave 01-09-2013 08:05 PM

Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
I'm confused. Am trying to find a WJ to tow behind the motor home with all four wheels on the ground. A couple of "guides" say, for example, that the 2004 Grand Cherokee is towable with all four wheels on the ground. Little distinction is offered between QuadraTrac and QuadraDrive.

Is there a straightforward way to screen 1999-2004 Jeep Grand Cherokees for suitability in towing four-down? Or, while we're at it, 2005-1010 Grand Cherokees? I keep saying "four-down" because I am not going to use a dolly or trailer.

At the moment I'm looking at WJ's because they are lighter than later models and due to age generally less expensive. However, a 2005-2010 WK could work at the right price but the same problem arises in qualifying the drive train for four-down towing.

I looked in a 2005 Grand Cherokee Limited's owners' manual, and it said flat out that the vehicle needed to be towed on a trailer - i.e. all wheels off the ground. This particular specimen was equipped with QuadraDrive II.

A car dealer told me that with respect to 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees, it needed to have a 231, 242, or 249 transfer case to be towed four-down. What he did not know is how to determine which one an individual vehicle had by simply looking at the vehicle itself.

Thanks,

Hacksaw 01-09-2013 08:23 PM

If it has QTII than it can be flat towed by moving the transfer case selector to the "N" position. I do not believe QT1,QD1,QD2,or Delectable Terrain vehicles can be flat towed.

Think Outside !- No Box Required.

WindsorDave 01-09-2013 09:53 PM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Thanks, Hacksaw. Does that apply to all QuadraTrac II's? In other words, if it has a QuadraTrac II in a 1999 or later Grand Cherokee, it can be towed four-down?

Best,

WindsorDave

cheapjeep 01-09-2013 10:15 PM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
All WJs can be flat towed no matter what transfer case. You just have to have the transmission in park and the transfer case in neutral. Just remember to put the case back in gear or use a chock when you unhook the bar or it might leave the campsite on it's own:lol:

Hacksaw 01-09-2013 10:16 PM

QTII is QTII if it was a 2002 or a 2013 it doesn't matter.That being said I don't even know if QTII is available on a 2013. A great resource for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokee info is www.wjjeeps.com it has almost too much info :rolleyes:

Think Outside !- No Box Required.

honda_fox3 01-10-2013 05:35 AM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Just tow the motorhome with the jeep...... problem solved

cheapjeep 01-11-2013 10:09 AM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustinmk4 (Post 735775)
Just tow the motorhome with the jeep...... problem solved


Yeah!

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WindsorDave 01-11-2013 10:56 AM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapjeep (Post 736493)
Yeah!

Well, that might work except that the wife still insists on riding in the coach. That leaves no one in the Jeep to make my lunch and fetch my coffee as we tool down the road. Non starter!

Back on the original topic: I revisited the 2005, yes a WK, mentioned in my original post yesterday and though the owner's manual says flatbed or trailer for towing, it looked like that was intended for tow truck operators who are hooking up to tow a disabled vehicle. That makes sense, since it may not be possible or practical to put the Jeep's transfer case into neutral if it is disabled. There's no way to know in advance what the nature of the problem is. So to cover all the bases the owner's manual just says "no".

I visited WJJeeps.com as Hacksaw suggested and found a new-to-me term there - "Recreational Towing". It implies that if means exist to put the transfer case in "NEUTRAL" it can be flat towed. There was no corresponding section on the WKJeeps.com website relating to "Recreational Towing" that I could find.

In summary: Can one say with respect to WJ and WK series Grand Cherokees that if it has a transfer case that can be put in "NEUTRAL" it can be towed with all four wheels down on the pavement? And that depending on model, "NEUTRAL" can be achieved either by placing the shift lever in the "N" position or depressing the little neutral button with a ballpoint pen or equivalent?

It's a given that in the above scenarios other steps are required like putting the transmission in Park, releasing the hand brake, etc. before actual towing can happen.

Can it also be said that the engine does not have to be periodically started and run to keep the transmission lubricated when the vehicle is being towed? Forget about charging the battery as may be needed in some cases. I will make provisions to keep the battery charged.

Thanks again for all of the information.

cheapjeep 01-11-2013 11:27 AM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
The procedure seems to be the same for the WJ & WK.
Jeep Grand Cherokee WK - Towing your Grand Cherokee
Jeep Grand Cherokee WK - Towing

WindsorDave 01-11-2013 11:58 AM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Thanks to all who responded. I think I'm straight on towing WJ and WK Grand Cherokees. If transfer case "NEUTRAL" can be found, then we're good to go.

I kept getting different responses from car dealers and even RV dealers and shops. Even a website like Remco's seemed to be confused about the 2005.

Since I've screwed around trying to get oriented on this issue the window for buying the new-to-me toad has closed. We're leaving in less than 3 days for a couple of months in Arizona and will have to resume the seach when we return.

In the mean time the erstwhile and loyal Wrangler will have to continue serving as Toad-In-Chief.

honda_fox3 01-11-2013 11:22 PM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Huh, that's interesting. I thought recreational towing was what jeep owners do when wheeling with land rovers and H2's. This site has so much info :)

Maybe the trip to Arizona could be an opportunity to find a rust free vehicle to bring home?

It is my understanding that as long as you have the neutral option in the t-case you're all set. Hope you find a good GC and best of luck with the towing. I still think you have it backwards and the GC should be in front though. Have the wife send sandwiches through the sunroof with a fishing rod and basket.

Trav1s 01-11-2013 11:47 PM

Re: Confused About Towing A WJ Behind Motor Home
 
Members of my church tow an early WK behind their diesel pusher motorhome. He told me they have the WK because it was one of the few vehicles at the time that allow 4 wheel towing with the xfer case in neutral. WJ is the same...


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