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jagerman18 01-15-2013 05:40 PM

Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Great fourm here - tons of information and seems to be some very helpful members. I bought my 2011 GC in July of last year. I have been planning on doing a complete overhaul of the stereo system for some time now, and I finally have the majority of equipment in-hand and ready to go this weekend. I was an MECP installer for 7 or 8 years (I'm confortable with working in car audio). Here is what I'm putting in:

Pioneer AVH-X4500BT Double Din DVD Head Unit
Pac RP4-CH11 Wiring Harnes/Steering Wheel Controls Module
Metra Double Din Kit
Aftermarket Backup Camera
Stinger 150 Watt Power Inverter w/Video Plate (installing in rear of center console)
Diamond Audio 6.5" SX Black Components (Fronts)
Diamond Audio 6.5" SX Black Coaxials (Rears)
JL Audio 900/5 Amp
?? Subwoofer ??

So here's my questions:

What's the best place to terminate the USB from the Pioneer? Where is the factory USB on vehicles that came equipped with it?

Where has everyone been installing their amps? I've seen posts with people doing them in the comparment under the driver seat and in the spare tire comparments, but I live in Phoenix - and, without modification, those spots have terrible ventilation - overheating is a concern here.

Another question is on the Sub selection.... I'm a JL Audio guy, I love the idea of the stealth box - but am afraid it won't be enough for me. Can anyone comment on how the output is? I don't want to lose space in my cargo area, but I have narrowed the choices down to the stealth box or just doing a small slot ported box with a 10w7 that I can remove easily if needed (guaranteed I'd be happy with output of the W7 - but don't want to sacrifice cargo area space).

RageOfFury 01-15-2013 06:34 PM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
I upgraded the headunit and all speakers (6 speaker Laredo). Added an amp as well. It's far from an easy task, so planning, research and patience are a must!

I installed the amp under the passenger seat. Fit perfectly there, close to the battery, well protected and plenty of ventilation.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!

FAUEE 01-15-2013 10:44 PM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
There is no such thing as a "small slot ported box for a W7". The sub alone is massively deep, and requires a very large box to sound good (ish, never cared for the sound of the W7 tbh, was always too boomy and too much bass, preferred pairs of their smaller subs but a lot depends on tastes and music listened to).

USB on factory equipped models comes out in the center console armrest, in the top section that is lined with felt. I'd think the front pocket would be a logical place to put the USB (indeed the '14s are going to have it there).

The 900/5 is a good amp, you won't need to worry about suffocating it, it'll go into thermal protect mode way before it cooks itself, but has very good cooling on its own. If you don't have QuadraLift, you could maybe fit it in the compartment under the driver's seat, and hook up a little PC fan if you were that concerned. Outside of that, maybe under the rear seat, it seems like not a lot of room under there though.

Good luck. Good to hear of other MECP guys here (was MECP Installer for 5-6 years, still might have MECP Advanced, not sure if/when it ran out)

Frankiebass 01-18-2013 07:31 PM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
I just had my 2012 upgraded. The jl stealth box shoud make enough bass for most people( it does for me and I'm a bass player) I used the factory head unit and used a JBL MS-8 to drive two JL audio amps.

Two things to remember;

1) there is an area under then drivers seat that's covered. My MS-8 fit right in with just a bit of modding.

2) There is dead space in front off the spare tire area or behind the rear seat. Good for distribution blocks...

1stJeepGC 01-19-2013 06:59 AM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankiebass (Post 743185)
I used the factory head unit and used a JBL MS-8 to drive two JL audio amps.

Greetings,

How well did the JBL MS-8 tune the WK2? I have the Alpine system in mine and in my upgrade plans, I debating to keep the Alpine factory unit just for the DSP Eurphony Surround Sound steering logic with another DSP unit right after that to fine tune the WK2. IMO, the Logic 7 by Harman does sound better.

Thanx in advance for your input.

Best for now.:)

1stJeepGC 01-19-2013 07:15 AM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jagerman18 (Post 740505)

Pioneer AVH-X4500BT Double Din DVD Head Unit

Greetings,

Just in case you missed it, at CES 2013, Pioneer finally announced the new external GPS unit, the AVIC-U250.

IMO, you put together an excellent sound system. Sound quality speakers/amps with perfect bass which ever way you choose. Also, at CES 2013, many of the SPL bass speaker manufactures have jumped on the shallow mount bass drivers. Since you are handy in car audio installs, you might be able to modify the lift gate to install a dual sub system.

Let us know how you made out.

Best for now.:)

Frankiebass 01-19-2013 10:18 AM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stJeepGC (Post 743440)
Greetings,

How well did the JBL MS-8 tune the WK2? I have the Alpine system in mine and in my upgrade plans, I debating to keep the Alpine factory unit just for the DSP Eurphony Surround Sound steering logic with another DSP unit right after that to fine tune the WK2. IMO, the Logic 7 by Harman does sound better.

Thanx in advance for your input.

Best for now.:)

So far so good. Sadly the first hour or so I had the jeep back was spent on a conference call driving home. I can tell you that being able to kill the sub while on a hands free call in the jeep makes for a much better experience but thats thanks to the bass level control on the JL amp. It sounds much better than the factory system. The MS-8 does a nice job of tuning on its own and the setup is easy. Now it's just a matter of tweaking to taste.

1stJeepGC 01-19-2013 02:26 PM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankiebass (Post 743556)
So far so good. Sadly the first hour or so I had the jeep back was spent on a conference call driving home. I can tell you that being able to kill the sub while on a hands free call in the jeep makes for a much better experience but thats thanks to the bass level control on the JL amp. It sounds much better than the factory system. The MS-8 does a nice job of tuning on its own and the setup is easy. Now it's just a matter of tweaking to taste.

Please post update after your speakers break in and perform the final tweaks.

Best for now.:)

Schweibs 01-20-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagerman18 (Post 740505)
So here's my questions:

What's the best place to terminate the USB from the Pioneer? Where is the factory USB on vehicles that came equipped with it?

I got the Pioneer AVH-X1500DVD. The USB and Aux connections are at the rear of the head unit just like the other AVH-X models. I ran the USB cable (Pioneer CD-IU201S) into the little storage compartment just forward of the gear shifter and cup holders. I got a small knife extremely hot with a blow torch and cut a hole in the back upper corner for the wire to run through. My old iPhone 4 stays connected in there so you can't see any wires or anything connected to my head unit. Makes it look very 'clean'. Then I ran an Auxiliary cord to the glovebox.

jagerman18 01-25-2013 04:37 PM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
First off - thank you to everyone that has responded back to my post. The feedback is greatly appreciated. I didn't have near as much time as I thought I would this past weekend, but I did make some progress. Here is where I'm at on the install:

- Pioneer AVH-X4500BT is installed, there are some compatability issues with this deck and the iPhone 5, but apparently they are being addressed by Pioneer. Another problem I ran into is that after I but the dash back together, the headunit does not have the clearance at the bottom of dash beezel to open (the pioneer head units swing out and down from the bottom of the stereo to allow access to the CD/DVD slot). It's like 1/8" short of clearing, so I am going to play with adjusting the Metra mounting brackets to see if I can fix the issue. The PAC RP4-CH11 is perfect, steering wheel controls all entact - everything else with the deck seems solid.

- All door speakers have been changed, and door panels have been put back on. Word of warning, the clips on these Jeep doors do not mess around!! Use a door panel tool, that is the only way with these.... The components in the front were not bad - I had to modify the factory tweeter pillars a bit to accomodate the Diamond Audios, but nothing a dremel and some hot glue couldn't handle!! The rears were a piece of cake. Hardest thing was running new speaker wire through the factory grommets - patience is virtue LOL.

Fronts:

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...dio/photo1.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...dio/photo2.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...dio/photo4.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...dio/photo3.jpg

Rears:

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...io/photo12.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...io/photo22.jpg


- My buddy who works for Cerwin Vega is preaching that their new 800.5 5-channel will outdo the JL Audio 900/5. So, I agreed to demo it for him and give him a comparison on the two amps. The Cerwin 800.5 is installed, just waiting on my StealthBox to get here... I took out the entire front of vehicle to properly route wires and keep everything clean looking. Here are some pics so far:

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...io/photo32.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...io/photo42.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...dio/photo5.jpg


- Backup Camera is installed, just needs adjusting for viewing angle. Fairly simple install is you don't mind putting some holes on your Jeep....

- StealthBox should be here today or tomorrow, than I just have some clean up and little things (RBC mount, USB mount, Bluetooth Mic Mount, etc.) I will post pics of the the entire install when it is complete.

Schweibs 01-28-2013 02:35 AM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jagerman18 (Post 747645)
I took out the entire front of vehicle to properly route wires and keep everything clean looking.

How hard was it to remove the front seats? I would be worried about the active headrests, airbags, etc..

jagerman18 01-29-2013 10:10 AM

Re: Upgrading the audio in my 2011 GC - full overhaul need opinions....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schweibs (Post 749182)
How hard was it to remove the front seats? I would be worried about the active headrests, airbags, etc..

Front seats were cake. I disconnected the negative battery terminal, let it sit for about 5 min - I had read on other posts that the waiting period is required to reset modules associated with seat airbags/active headrests.... Not sure about the truth in that, but after the 5 min had passed took about 10 mins to have both seats out (5 bolts and 1 electrical connector each). Once that was complete, took out the center console (took about 10 mins), and I had all the room I needed to wire everything clean & correctly.


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