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Roki303 02-03-2013 12:35 PM

self leveling shocks
 
How effective are those?

I know that air suspension works fine but on the models that don't have QL (Quadra-Lift) but you get towing package you get self leveling shocks. Are those any good? How long do they last?

I'm asking because I often carry road/mountain bikes on a platform bike rack that you attach to a hitch. Very often my current truck likes to sag a bit with two bikes behind plus trunk full of camping gear.

Debating between Overland and Limited and whatever to get QL or not just for the above reason. I don't see myself rock crawling but deep snow (my house is at cul-de-sac and can be hell to get out in winter), plus doing some light off roading (dirt, overgrown forest roads, etc).

rovinrail 02-03-2013 03:03 PM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
Quit worrying and just get the Overland. The interior's much nicer, and the QL is a nice feature to have also.

gc4x4 02-03-2013 04:24 PM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
The limited would do just fine as the leveling shock will raise the rear to compensate for your cargo. The limited would be alot cheaper than the overland, plus you wouldn't have to deal with the air suspension problems. example land rover,Lincoln etc..

Sobrut911 02-03-2013 09:18 PM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
I'm on my 2nd overland (17K & 24K miles) with QL and air suspension without any problems. I believe you get a nicer ride with the air suspension. I hope they last as long as regular shocks.

ajs800 02-03-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gc4x4 (Post 753709)
The limited would do just fine as the leveling shock will raise the rear to compensate for your cargo. The limited would be alot cheaper than the overland, plus you wouldn't have to deal with the air suspension problems. example land rover,Lincoln etc..

Those systems are entirely different...I have no regrets going with QL and have had 25k problem free miles to date. IIRC, jeep uses the same system that Benz has used for years with no big issues.

To the OP, Either would work just fine for your use.

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The Evil Twin 02-04-2013 09:43 AM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
Don't you have to get the Tow IV package for the load leveling in the Limited? Just asking because I don't know. I needed the towing in mine so I never looked into it.
Edit: As I was told, there are 2 separate tow options- one just gives you the hitch and lights the other (Tow IV) gives you load leveling among other things. So be sure which one you get.

Roki303 02-04-2013 10:28 AM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Evil Twin (Post 754020)
Don't you have to get the Tow IV package for the load leveling in the Limited? Just asking because I don't know. I needed the towing in mine so I never looked into it.
Edit: As I was told, there are 2 separate tow options- one just gives you the hitch and lights the other (Tow IV) gives you load leveling among other things. So be sure which one you get.

Great point, thanks. Looks like for MY2014 there is only 1 towing option listed.

The Evil Twin 02-04-2013 11:09 AM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
Ah, problem solved!
FWIW, I was looking for the QL myself. I do a lot of highway and like the "aerodynamic" mode for fuel mileage. Of course, not that I expect much economy from a V8! The OL I got is more well appointed than I really wanted, but the suspension is something I think I will like come the time when there is 8-12" of snow on the ground.
Each will have their own opinion, no doubt.

webspoke 02-04-2013 11:11 AM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
I have had both the QL and now load leveling shocks. QL will return the ride height to exactly level, regardless of theload (it adjusts constantly in fact). The load levelling shocks seem to allow a couple of inches of sag before they start assisting. Now it takes a few hundred pounds of load to get it to sag. With only 200lbs of cargo in the back area it hardly sags at all.

brandont 02-05-2013 12:56 PM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
http://brandont.smugmug.com/Misc/Kit.../0/M/037-M.jpg

That's about 14 boxes of tile (around 50# / box) and 2 40# bags of mortar in my Limited. I don't see much sag, if any.

http://brandont.smugmug.com/Misc/Kit.../0/M/036-M.jpg

SMG1 02-05-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webspoke (Post 754057)
I have had both the QL and now load leveling shocks. QL will return the ride height to exactly level, regardless of theload (it adjusts constantly in fact). The load levelling shocks seem to allow a couple of inches of sag before they start assisting. Now it takes a few hundred pounds of load to get it to sag. With only 200lbs of cargo in the back area it hardly sags at all.

It should be pointed out that you have to start driving (after loading the cargo for the first time) before the load leveling shocks ratchet up to regular height.


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Robey5 02-05-2013 05:39 PM

Re: self leveling shocks
 
I too have the QL and love it. Loaded up with a peak capacity trailer, the truck had no problem pulling and performing the level loading task.

I recommend the QL system - you will not be upset. Go for the O'land, it will fit the task that you are throwing at it; considering you need to change the ride height for your commute.


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