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JWIN 02-26-2013 07:28 PM

Simple Upgrade?
 
Has anyone just replaced the factory 6x9 speakers with an aftermarket 6x9's? I know it isn't the most "audiophile" approach to upgrading, but I am hoping that it will still sound good. I have decided that I cant afford to upgrade with amps and converters and I assume 6x9's would be the best way to keep good mid-bass with the factory amp.

Knowing that I can NOT get an external amp, what would be the best speakers for me with the FACTORY power? :confused:

Thank you in advance!

RageOfFury 02-26-2013 07:33 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
The front speakers are actually a component kit, consisting of a 6x9 woofer and a 1" tweeter. Most of us upgraders have swapped out the 6x9 woofer for a 6-1/2 woofer and a 1" tweeter. I recommend using Crutchfield.com's Outfit My Car tool to find out what fits your vehicle.

JWIN 02-26-2013 07:55 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
What about these? It says they fit my front doors: Kicker KS69 6"x9" 2-way car speakers at Crutchfield.com

1stJeepGC 02-26-2013 08:35 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JWIN (Post 768441)
What about these? It says they fit my front doors: Kicker KS69 6"x9" 2-way car speakers at Crutchfield.com

Greetings,

I would not recommend the Kickers. First of all, the tweeter is built into the speaker. Moreover, the speaker is pretty much the same as the factory system.

Do you have the stock 6 speaker system or the Alpine premium factory system with the built-in 8 inch sub woofer? This is important in order to determine the internal crossover system used.

Basically, you are swapping out the 6x9 for another 6x9 or 6 1/2 driver only. If you wish to upgrade the tweeter, then you can get a component kit and not use the supplied passive crossover network. Let the factory system power and provide the crossover network. If you do have the 6 speaker system, i believe their is some sort over built-in crossover. Both factory system will have some difficulties in driving a full component system via the supplied aftermarket passive crossover.

I would look into using a quality 6 1/2 inch speaker which can easily work with your future upgrades. Or, the best idea is to wait unit you have some decent bucks to upgrade.

Best for now.:)

JWIN 02-26-2013 10:03 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Ok. That all said, are there any decent 6.5" components that will sound good with factory power?

1stJeepGC 02-26-2013 10:38 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JWIN (Post 768562)
Ok. That all said, are there any decent 6.5" components that will sound good with factory power?

Greetings,

Check out this page from Crutchfield's component speakers in the $189.00 to $300.00 range:

Car Selector

Best for now.:)

kkreit01 02-27-2013 01:55 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Unfortunately, if you have the OE Alpine system, there is no quick/easy/cheap method to significantly improve the sound. The frequency cut-offs are all set at the OE amp. The only full-range signal is sent to the rear door speakers. Dropping a coax in the front will not work well -- as there is no full-range signal there. Aftermarket components will take a real amp to shine.

RageOfFury 02-27-2013 02:03 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
JWIN do you have the base 6 speaker system of the 9 speaker "Alpine" system? The reason I put Alpine in quotation marks is because, in my opinion, it's not a true Alpine system. It's a Chrysler designed system with Alpine's name on it. It's essentially a marketing ploy.

Just upgrading the speakers won't do much. It's like putting high performance tires on a Yugo. You need to overhaul the system if you want better sound.

JWIN 02-27-2013 08:48 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Why must this be so complicated...

Jrunr 02-27-2013 08:55 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kkreit01 (Post 768993)
Unfortunately, if you have the OE Alpine system, there is no quick/easy/cheap method to significantly improve the sound. The frequency cut-offs are all set at the OE amp. The only full-range signal is sent to the rear door speakers. Dropping a coax in the front will not work well -- as there is no full-range signal there. Aftermarket components will take a real amp the shine.

Ok, now I have a question because I am trying to upgrade my system, but this stuff is confusing. I have never had a system this complicated in a vehicle!!!
So, I have the Alpine system and I am looking to add new amplification and speakers but I have some connectivity questions:

If the front woofers dont even get a full range signal then how could I even tap into them to send a full range to signal to the amp? The amp only "amplifies" the signal that is input. How can I run components of that signal in the front door?

Or do I only tap the rear speaker signal and split that full range sound into front, rear, and sub? Won't I lose the ability to fade front to rear if I do that?

Or do I run the factory subwoofer signal out to the sub amp? Where do i get all of these signals?

subbie09 02-27-2013 09:40 PM

You buy a converter to convert high level to low level input. This converter, such as the LC7i, or 3.sixty.3, goes between the factory amp and aftermarket amp. You should tap the stock amps outputs for the front tweeters, front doors, and subwoofer for a full range signal.

jeepster23 02-27-2013 09:52 PM

Re: Simple Upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JWIN (Post 769315)
Why must this be so complicated...

Its not you just cant expect to spend 120 bucks and all of a sudden have a decent system. It takes a little money. Like the saying says "you get what you pay for."


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