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GMWK2 02-27-2013 05:44 PM

8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
Land Rover have a 9 speed and Sergio is quoted in this article as saying 200,000 vehicles will be sold with a nine speed in 2013.

Drive - Land Rover Testing 9 Speed Auto

Time to trade in the MY2014.

Frankly, I'm happy with 5. I like the clunk from gear to gear and having half a clue which gear I should use for a corner when in sport mode.

RageOfFury 02-27-2013 05:53 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
The 2014 (Small) Cherokee will have a 9-speed transmission

Scottina06 02-27-2013 06:09 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
sorry my friend.....but the 8 speed is amazing. there is NO hunting for gears...its a VERY SMART tranny!

Vanguard 02-27-2013 07:01 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
Hyundai of all companies is putting out a 10 speed in the new genesis next year.

RageOfFury 02-27-2013 07:05 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Vanguard (Post 769228)
Hyundai of all companies is putting out a 10 speed in the new genesis next year.

The Hyundai/Kia group is really pushing the technology and design envelopes. Quite amazing really.

Specx 02-27-2013 07:10 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
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Originally Posted by RageOfFury (Post 769187)
The 2014 (Small) Cherokee will have a 9-speed transmission

Not even that saves it from the ugly design.

rubicontrail.net 02-27-2013 08:18 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
One of the head folks from ZF has stated that 9 speeds are the theoretical limit for transmissions. Apparently, the gains in performance, smoothness, and efficiency are too minimal to be worth the extra complexity and weight.

For what it's worth the new Cherokee (NOT Grand Cherokee) will most likely be getting the new ZF-designed 9 speed transmission that Chrysler will be using. The 9 speed is not designed for the higher torque applications of the CRD or HEMI, so don't expect the 9 speed to show up in the Grand Cherokee.

Also, Land Rover is behind the times. Jeep already has a 21 speed transmission available in the Compass: All Things Jeep - Men's Jeep Compass Hybrid 700c Bicycle- Satin Gray

njtoman 02-27-2013 10:38 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottina06 (Post 769200)
sorry my friend.....but the 8 speed is amazing. there is NO hunting for gears...its a VERY SMART tranny!

Agreed 100%. 5.7 with the 8 speed is liquid smooth.

GMWK2 02-28-2013 01:48 AM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
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Apparently, the gains in performance, smoothness, and efficiency are too minimal to be worth the extra complexity and weight.

Didn't Chrysler say this about the TorqueFlite? Lol.

Quote:

sorry my friend.....but the 8 speed is amazing.
Hey, I'm sure it is amazing. I drove past a Jeep dealer today and had to fight the urge to pull over and go and have a chat to the sales guys about maybe a new car.....while I'm more than happy with my MY12 5 speed, does not mean I don't want a new one!

gwnewman1 02-28-2013 10:35 AM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMWK2 (Post 769521)
Didn't Chrysler say this about the TorqueFlite? Lol.



Hey, I'm sure it is amazing. I drove past a Jeep dealer today and had to fight the urge to pull over and go and have a chat to the sales guys about maybe a new car.....while I'm more than happy with my MY12 5 speed, does not mean I don't want a new one!

I just picked up a '14 with the 3.6. The difference between the two transmissions is night and day. I didn't have any "major" issues with the 5 speed in my '12, but having driven the 8, I wouldn't want to go back. Much more responsive and far smoother.

FAUEE 02-28-2013 06:11 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
Sounds like they've improved it since they put it in the LX cars, that's a good thing - it sucked in those cars when I drove them, constantly shifting, never had any idea what gear it wanted to be in, really just a terrible implementation. Clearly software fixes have come out since then.

I'm rather over the need for more gears. Even manual transmissions are trying to have 7 and 8 gears now, and frankly that's just too many. 6 gears is the best amount for manuals, with 6-7 being the best for automatics IMO.

I've not driven an 8 speed vehicle yet that I didn't think "it'd be better if this thing shifted less". That includes previous Chryslers with it, BMWs with it, and Hyundais. I didn't have that feeling with the 7 speeds form Nissan and MB.

Maybe it's just personal preference though, I don't like it when my vehicle shifts a lot. Clearly they're going to keep developing more gears because consumers always think more gears is better. Unless it's a CVT with infinitely many gears, then they like it less. Go figure.

Temerarius 02-28-2013 07:57 PM

Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FAUEE (Post 769978)
Clearly they're going to keep developing more gears because consumers always think more gears is better. Unless it's a CVT with infinitely many gears, then they like it less. Go figure.

I don't think it's really consumer driven (I want more gears) type stuff, it's that they have to hit those CAFE standards here, in the EU, and in China.

All of which are going up.

Same reason you will see more and more diesel powered vehicles here in the US (GM, Mazda, etc...).


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