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SnoFire 03-25-2013 09:09 AM

Want to start out right
Good morning everyone. Since I'm waiting to take delivery of my 2014 GC, I want to start out right and make this thing shine and last. I have waxed my vehicles in the past but not as often as I should. I have read some on here about claybar as soon as I get it and then doing a wax.

I guess I need some guidance here, I've never used a claybar or dont' even really know where to start. I would get leather cleaner/conditioner as well.

Help me start out right here people, I need the help.

Side note: what do you guys think of doing the opti-coat?

bill_de 03-25-2013 09:22 AM

Re: Want to start out right
Check out, "waxing my 14"

It should be near the top of 'new posts'

SRTgirl 03-25-2013 09:28 AM

Re: Want to start out right
My advice would be to go over to adamsforums and check out some of their detailing videos. They're only a few minutes long but you can learn a lot. I know a lot of peeps over there, all super friendly, beautiful rides, and know their stuff. I buy nothing but black rides and with our crazy weather down here they still always look awesome.

Hubs just did some clay bar/polish/wax etc this weekend, we're a bit anal about them staying in good condition. :)

SnoFire 03-25-2013 11:36 AM

Re: Want to start out right
Thanks for the Tips. What about doing this?

Wash, Claybar, Polish, Opti-coat 2.0, then a wax?

Scottina06 03-25-2013 02:04 PM

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ya gotta be careful with a clay bar as you will induce swirls and holograms. Check out the how tos on adams or at

I hughly suggest you seal it right away with meguiers #21 or Blackfire and then repeat every 3 months. Study all the how tos as well for wahing and drying. Most owners do more damage to their vehicles when washing than any exterior element can. AVOID auto carwashes COMPLETELY!!!!!!!!!! they are the DEVIL! I cant emphasize that enought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buy a nice bucket, grit guard, lambs wool wash mit and microfiber waffle weave drying towels. Use JG code 10offJG for 10% off your order if you buy online. They have the large mf WW drying towels on sale right now for $13.50.....I bought 2 today! They also sell high quality mf towels.

subbie09 03-25-2013 03:25 PM

2 bucket wash, clay to get of impurities, then M105 then M205, then polish, wax, and seal. The m105 will removal the swirls and the 205 will polish.

BuckeyeSRT 03-26-2013 06:26 AM

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read read read!
That is the best advice I got.
I am a huge Collinite #915 fan for wax cause it looks great and lasts longer than anything.
Most any wax will give you great joy when you are finished that is for sure.
I cut my teeth at Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum
Good luck!

joenjulie 03-31-2013 11:31 PM

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Autogeek or Detailed Image. If new you may not need to polish, but will need to clay and IPA wipe down to get Opticoat or similar to bond properly. Check out 22PLE, I hear its way easier than most of the coatings to apply and take off. I'm doing it as soon as warmer weather hits Ohio. Check out Esoteric Detail and Esoteric Auto Care...people bring Todd their Ferraris and Lamborghinis for a reason, and he is on DI for ask a pro blog, he has helped me develop some new techniques for my Brilliant Black, and I use his wax. A cheaper route is Blackfire Wet Diamond, it's awesome, and maintain it with Blackfire wet diamond poly spray and you'll get months of protection before having to reapply the sealer. Chemical guys honey dew snow foam is a great maintanence soap that won't strip your protectant.

joenjulie 03-31-2013 11:41 PM

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I've heard Opticoat is very good, people swear by it, but also the Pro version of 22PLE has more shine/gloss/depth. I don't know if you can wax over Opticoat, but you can put Esoteric Signature Wax over 22PLE, it was developed with bonding to the glass coat in mind. I believe Opticoat is also more of a quartz coating, and 22PLE is a silica/glass coating which gives the better shine. I used the two version for the trim, and metal, and the have impressed me to say the least. I know I sound like a sound board for Esoteric products, but the wax even made silver "pop" according to my wife when a did a new X3, it has lasted Ohio winter better than Blackfire did for me last year, and Todd probably wouldn't use 22PLE or develop his wax if it wasn't great...he used to use Blackfire a lot previously he told me if that says anything.

blum3416 04-03-2013 12:56 PM

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What do you guys think about getting a clear bra installed to protect the front end and side mirrors? I was looking into this for my JGC when it gets delivered. Also, would this change what kind of wax/sealant that should be used?

joenjulie 04-03-2013 10:14 PM

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I put Expel Ultimate on front bumper, fender/hood(22inches back), mirrors, and behind rear wheels. 10 Yr warranty. It's a self healing film, there's a YouTube video of it, they scratched with a brush, poured hot water over it and it levels back out. It seems to do better than regular 3M at forming into corners better, my boss had his vette done with it and loved it. His Cayman and 3 series he had the dealers do 3M, and they've re-done each, and they still "spider web" around corners, lights, etc. and are pulling away, depending on color, use water based protectants, some that are solvent based will cause it to yellow, and will be noticeable on white, or other light colors. IPA is good to clean, Todd Cooperider(Esoteric Detailing and Detailed Image advisor) told me treat it like paint, he said you can do 22PLE on it, I use his signature wax on it. The place I got mine done has a specific cleaner/protectant for it, but he saw my detail arsenal, and told'll be fine. They came from an hour away, and did the install on a late Friday night(after normal business hours)for $ boss paid between $900-1000 at the dealerships.

joenjulie 04-03-2013 10:22 PM

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It has saved a couple rock chips so far...looks like a bug splat up close, on the bra, not big, but would've chipped the paint without it. I had a garage door come down on me as I left a touch less car wash(some malfunction), and while it did scratch the bra, some 120 degree water and I massaged it a bit, they came out. The paint however, needed 5 different stages of polish to get out scratches...that impressed me the bra wasn't impacted after a little hot water and a massage, 5 minutes maybe on the bra, 1 hr on the paint.

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