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Misiu 04-02-2013 05:33 PM

Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Good afternoon,

I orignially placed this in the "build" thread, but that may have been the wrong place.

I'm a long time reader, first time poster. I've noticed the accuracy of Milous on other Jeep forums, so thought I'd venture a question or three:

1. Why does the new 3.0 liter diesel negate the ability to select the Blu Ray? I noticed I couldn't build on Jeep.com and the forum posting here says that the Blue Ray is incompatible with the diesel package as well...guess not a error on the jeep site then. Any thoughts?

2. I'm one of the few to take a new Overland equipped with the ORAII package and actually go offroad. I won't take it in on the Rubicon Trail I just did last summer with my stock Rubicon, but other trails seem fine (like Moab) where less live axle articulation is not a huge issue. So why can't I order tow hooks for the rear? I don't need a towing package, I want to yank folks out of ditches here in the winter or off a high center issue. I notice that the new Trailhawk II DOES have these...why can't an Overland? I'd like to get as much "factory" versus aftermarket that I can...

3. The Trailhawk II looks GREAT with the diesel for torque, large tires, great Mopar rock rails (I used these as a replacement for the ones that came with the Wrangler Rubicon, and they are great) and (I assume) electronic slip "lockers". Any news on whether a full size tire is included, or if the diesel urea tank takes up too much space? And when we could order the new Trailhawk? Wish we had other color choices though...I'm more interested in the trail capabilities than stunning the passerby with garish colors...:)

I would buy that concept vehicle in a heartbeat...please please please release it as fast as you did the last Trailhawk. I would gladly trade in my 2012 Rubicon and 2013 Overland for it. :)

Thanks!

travelhawk 04-02-2013 07:52 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Where did you hear about a Trailhawk II? Is this a rumor or a fact?

Misiu 04-02-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
The Trailhawk II was at Moab over Easter. Some good videos on the net.

Jim_in_PA 04-02-2013 08:43 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
The Trailhawk at Moab was a concept vehicle...it may or may not reflect something that might become "real" later.

The video option is delayed for production until July at the present time. But it does appear to not be available with the 22P (CRD) package according to the ordering information thread in the stickies above. I don't recall a reason every given for that.

Relative to the rear tow hook, the Overland (or any other model) with the towing setup doesn't have the "regular" tow hook installed as it would interfere with the rest of the setup. But you can get a 2" receiver mounted tow hook from many sources for not much money to allow for that need off-road.

Misiu 04-02-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Thank you, appreciate the note.

Understand that the Trailhawk II is concept currently, but was pleased how fast the other Trailhawk came out, though it was lacking in a lot of off-road areas. Slap a rockrail and Silent Wrangler tires on an Overland with ORA II and you have a better vehicle than the current Trailhawk... because you get a Quadra Drive with limited slip that the Trailhawk and its Quadra Trac don't give.

But this year's Trailhawk is just about perfect with larger tires that give better clearance, the right transmission, awesome torque with the diesel (and fuel economy) AND you get factory tow hooks in the rear where they are needed. I really hope this stays just the way it is (maybe with toned down colors)! Doesn't hurt to hope.

I will have to purchase a hitch receiver otherwise, something I've been avoiding on my current Overland. I've even pulled folks up a hill in reverse to use the factory front tow hooks instead...

Hope that the creature comforts like the Blu Ray will become available on the CRD, but I'll go diesel regardless for all that it offers in torque.

Thanks again for the reply, and here's to hoping for a really great lineup in 2014!

GunninIt 04-02-2013 11:04 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
The creature comforts of the Overland is what the Trailhawk was lacking. The 5.7 contained the QDII system along with the QL system. Not sure what more you want.

The reason I didn't get the Trailhawk? As I said, it was lacking the Overland panache - yeah, I like that in an offroader! LOL

I ended up holding off on my purchase, and I'm hoping the Trailhawk II steps it up with the interior. It surely has on the outside - I have to believe a good large portion of the concept will carry over. At least I'll believe it until proven otherwise.

mattagrella 04-03-2013 02:35 AM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
+1 for hoping TH2 makes it to production. I'll take it in Granite Crystal please. Thx. :thumbsup:

Misiu 04-03-2013 06:07 AM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GunninIt (Post 794551)
The creature comforts of the Overland is what the Trailhawk was lacking. The 5.7 contained the QDII system along with the QL system. Not sure what more you want.

The reason I didn't get the Trailhawk? As I said, it was lacking the Overland panache - yeah, I like that in an offroader! LOL

I ended up holding off on my purchase, and I'm hoping the Trailhawk II steps it up with the interior. It surely has on the outside - I have to believe a good large portion of the concept will carry over. At least I'll believe it until proven otherwise.

I agree...it is why I picked the Overland with ORA II and a Hemi last year. And slapped on the same Silent Armor tires. I didn't get around to the rockrails yet for the Overland (bought them but replaced the standard Rubicon rock rails instead). The Quadra Drive on the Overland is far superior to what came on the first Trailhawk.

But all that is fixed with the current Trailhawk II...and agree that I also want to maintain the creature comforts and panache of the Overland. Here's to hoping!

GunninIt 04-03-2013 09:42 AM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Misiu (Post 794667)
I agree...it is why I picked the Overland with ORA II and a Hemi last year. And slapped on the same Silent Armor tires. I didn't get around to the rockrails yet for the Overland (bought them but replaced the standard Rubicon rock rails instead). The Quadra Drive on the Overland is far superior to what came on the first Trailhawk.

But all that is fixed with the current Trailhawk II...and agree that I also want to maintain the creature comforts and panache of the Overland. Here's to hoping!

I think you missed my point, which was to say that the 4X4 system was the same for both 2013 V8 Overland ORA II and Trailhawks. There was NO difference.

Misiu 04-03-2013 04:47 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Interesting as I looked specifically for that and saw Quadra Trac, not Quadra Drive for the transmissions released last October on the Limited Trailhawk. Perhaps they offered Quadra Drive later? Though the problem with most limited editions is that you have no customization opportunity.

So, yes, I guess I did miss your point as that was and is news to me.

GunninIt 04-03-2013 04:53 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
Just to back up what I'm saying...here's a link to a sticker for a 5.7 Trailhawk. You can see in the right hand column about 90% of the way down the page "Quadra-Drive II 4WD System." It also has the eLSD two lines up.

http://www.chrysler.com/hostd/window...RJFAT5DC591382
http://www.chrysler.com/hostd/window...RJFAT5DC591382

Misiu 04-03-2013 06:37 PM

Re: Options For Overland and Trailhawk Questions
 
And...back on topic as the thread goes sideways.

Any idea why the CRD package can't have a Blu Ray?

Any idea if a full size spare is available on CRD models with some extra space taken up with the Urea tank?

Thanks,


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