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fumblefingers1 06-21-2013 07:41 AM

Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
This Thread is to make a place where issues of Uconnect and Cell phones can be separated from other Uconnect issues such as updates. There appears to be compatibility issues with some cell phones and as to what cell phones work well with the Uconnect system and general cell phone cost and related issues. I have listed but a few of the considerations that Uconnect users may want to consider with their cell phones Should I have any wrong info let me know and I will edit and correct.
The Uconnect compatibility wizard gives results that are incomplete and even list cell phones that are no longer available from certain carriers. The Wizard also list only Cell phones that are available with Data plans. The information is very hard to find and smaller carriers like Frontier Communications in the mountain states and new cell phone systems that are trying to compete with the monopolistic practices of major carriers are shut out of the pipe line. The Uconnect compatibility chart is 2 years out of date and they probably will not issue a new one until they have ironed out their firmware issues with gremlins.
Verizon charges an extra $40.00 per month per phone for Data plan phones such as the Apple I5, Apple S4, Samsung S4 and the Razr HD. Some of the aforementioned phones have WIFI connectivity that allows the user to connect to the internet through their home networks or through free Internet hotspots without using up their Data minutes. Also, for those who use their cell phones in areas that have poor cell coverage, the antenna strength is a factor. For those who have cell phone boosters the frequencies are important when changing possible carriers. As I recall ATT and Verizon use 800/1900 and Sprint uses another frequency
There are other considerations about choice of cell phone that should be considered as some may chose to use basic cell phones which will use only some of the features of the Uconnect. Cell phone charging through the Uconnect USB port may be somewhat slower than other charging systems.
There may be other considerations not mentioned so it would be helpful if both current cell phone users and those looking to change post their pro’s and Con’s about their systems.
Please post your Cell phone model and operating system, Uconnect Model and firmware number, compatibility pro’s and Con’s.
For Instance since my GC is on order, and I have not purchased the cell phones that I will upgrade to. I can show only what I’m considering. All 3 have multiple advanced features that exceed the features of the Apple I4 and the Samsung S3
For Me
With a 2 year plan:
Apple I5, O.S. EOS 6.1.0, cost $199, Activation $30, Carrier Verizon, Pro’s Wi-Fi, and Data functional, new aluminum back and not as fragile as Apple I4s, Con’s: Gorilla glass front still fragile and drop test report not as durable as the Samsung S4i ask system competes with Samsung S voice
Apple S4, O.S. EOS ?, Cost $99, Activation $30, Carrier Verizon Pro’s advanced features; Cons Fragile in drop test

Samsung S4, OS Android, cost $199 Carrier: Verizon, Uconnect 8.4AN, Pro’s: WIFI, functional compatibility Cons: Reported Bluetooth drop out and inability to transmit text messages, S Voice competes With Apple Siri

Motorola Razr HD cost $99, Carrier Verizon
HTC Droid Cost $99, Carrier Verizon


For Wife
Samsung Samsung IntensityŽ III, OS BREW, no Data plan, Cost $49.Carrier: Verizon : Uconnect 8.4 An, Pro’s Basic Cell, Low Cost, less expensive plan from Verizon, available a basic phone from Verizon ,: Con’s: cannot use all Uconnect features, No Data, May not be compatible with U Connect..
Since I live in a rural area, with limited cell coverage even with a booster amp, the Cell phone antenna strength is an important factor.
Concerning the new UCONNECT systems, they also have WIFI connectivity for a subscription cost. As I understand the system, it uses both public hotspots for connectivity and also it’s own hotspot with a transmission range of up to 150 ft from the vehicle.which if used may be redundant to a cell phone with WIFI connectivity and a waste of money but for Jeep owners in the boonies may be a godsend. This option cost $ and is available on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis.
Use the following link to access voice commands and other Uconnect topics. such as pairing your phone, system updates, Identification

https://rsur.extra.chrysler.com/rsur/Uconnect.do
http://www.driveuconnect.com/support/jeep/

Jim_in_PA 06-21-2013 07:55 AM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
You should select the mobile device and carrier that best suits your mobile communication needs. All of them will likely have some minor quirk or another with in-vehicle integration...it's the nature of the beast.

I'm an iPhone user on ATT. I'm on my 4th iPhone generation and will be upgrading in the fall to the next generation when it's released. I like iOS; have multiple iOS devices as well as MacOS devices. My corporate applications are best integrated with iOS. I've been with ATT since 1996 and have no reason to change. My corporate preferred carrier is also ATT. (My wife is also an iphone/iPad user and my teens use non-phone iOS devices) I've had very little issue with iOS in my JGC and integrate via BlueTooth, not the USB port.

That's what's best for me, but your needs and preferences may be different. It's very subjective...

fumblefingers1 06-21-2013 10:17 AM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
Thanks for your reply. That is the kind of info we need for this thread. In my case due to my rural location I must use either ATT or Verizon. For my regular home internet connection I had to leave ATT as their DSL service was inadequate. I note that Sprint is offering the I5 with a 2 year contract for $150 now. I can not use Sprint.

With your I4, do you have any Uconnect functions with gremlins?

fumblefingers1 06-21-2013 10:43 AM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
This info copied from the Uconnect update thread:
Actually you are correct. As I am a roadwarrier (hence the need for Diesel) I always am throwing my phone on a shelf up high and setting up mobile hotspot. When I am camping I setup my cell booster kit so I can do the same and stay connected. One thing I can say about the RAZR (probably because of Motorola's experience) the cell radio in this thing is awesome. I can do entire calls on 1 bar and I get reception when other users on the same carrier have nothing.

geox19 06-21-2013 11:00 AM

Great idea making a new thread for this info. Verizon Samsung galaxy note 2 running Beams rom 18. Based on 4.1.2 seems to have helped a lot with Bluetooth disconnects. Will update if text messaging is fixed as well with reliability issues so far its been working haven't missed a text yet. From day one have always been able to send text messages through voice command. I was running beans 10 which is based on 4.1and bluetooth would disconnect constantly.
For the people that have android phones bluetooth problems usually are caused by the kernel. So if you're rooted try flashing different kernels
I use rdio streaming over bluetooth for music seems to work very well with uconnect

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rb999tx 06-21-2013 11:14 AM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mzimm88 (Post 845790)
Thanks for your feedback. Could you give me some more info on your experience? How long have you been using your Note 2 with the Jeep, do you stream music through BT? What music player are you using?

Thanks!

I have been using the note2 with the jeep for a couple of months. I mainly just use the bluetooth calling. I did try the streaming and it seemed to work fine with the stock player. However, I have not tested it extensively. I ended up loading an SD card with music and use it primarily. I had not tested the texting until today but was able to send and listen to a text with the Jeep. I have been using the developer ROMS though since i got the phone. I initially used another one but the developer stopped updating it so i switched to Jedi a while back. I will try the streaming some more to make sure i don't get any skipping with it.

Edit: moved from the other uconnect thread to here.

fumblefingers1 06-21-2013 12:04 PM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
I have rec'd info that the Motorola Razr HD has a strong Antenna and not had a problem with connectivity with Uconnect. I do not know which carrier he is using.
the specs on this phone are published at Verizon but there is no info on Antenna strength on any of the phones. Does anyone know if the other phones listed have any features or improvements over this phone? It is less expensive than the Apple I5 or Samsung S4 and the same price as the Apple S4 and the Samsung S3. I note that the Android O.S. indicates it is using "ice cream sandwich" upgradable to (at a cost?) to "jelly bean"
I tried to get help at of Verion as my first cell phone from them was at least adequate so far as reception goes but my second "improved" phone was woefully inadequate with most calls dropped in my rural area. Verizon has no phones for testing and offers just a 14 day return with no refund of the $30 activation fee and a 15% restock fee which is no help at all. Since the Uconnect has a nice feature of voice commands it is important that it is not paired with an inadequate cell phone.

Sudbury78 06-21-2013 12:55 PM

Hey guys and gals. I had commented on a previous post that I am now using beans 18 on my Verizon note 2 after using stock rooted. In my 3 days with the car 2 texts have notified me on screen and through the speakers. That is probably out of 150 received. I started beans today and my short trip to starbucks and back the messages button was grayed out. Yes, the phone did ask if could upload the messages to uconnect. So not sure what the issue is. I was thinking of trying liquid smooth which is 4.2.2.

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Willx 06-21-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_in_PA (Post 845704)
You should select the mobile device and carrier that best suits your mobile communication needs. All of them will likely have some minor quirk or another with in-vehicle integration...it's the nature of the beast.

I'm an iPhone user on ATT. I'm on my 4th iPhone generation and will be upgrading in the fall to the next generation when it's released. I like iOS; have multiple iOS devices as well as MacOS devices. My corporate applications are best integrated with iOS. I've been with ATT since 1996 and have no reason to change. My corporate preferred carrier is also ATT. (My wife is also an iphone/iPad user and my teens use non-phone iOS devices) I've had very little issue with iOS in my JGC and integrate via BlueTooth, not the USB port.

That's what's best for me, but your needs and preferences may be different. It's very subjective...

Not to hijack the thread but most of my corporate clients have been moving away from IOS since Apple disconnected IMAP users from gmail during the IOS 6 update. It has also been problematic with Exchange recently.

Not saying all IOS devices are bad, I use an iPad as wireless scanner.

Todd3.6 06-21-2013 01:57 PM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
I'm not sure of the current firmware (I don't keep track of that).
But here's my info for others to use.

Radio - UConnect 430N
Cell Phone - Samsung Galaxy S4 (Sprint) SPH-L720
Android Version 4.2.2

I have Bluetooth connection, phone book download, AND now it will read incoming SMS/text messages (apparently send also, but I haven't tried that yet). It takes a couple minutes after the text message arrives for the system to acknowledge it.

My previous cell phone was a Samsung Nexus S 4G. Bluetooth and phone book download worked fine, but the SMS/text message feature did not.

jerryw1000 06-21-2013 02:13 PM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
I use a Verizon Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD running jelly bean 4.1.2 and the wife has an iPhone 5 with the latest IOS 6.something.or another. Both of us only use them for Bluetooth phone function so I cannot comment about streaming music. But neither of us has had a problem with phone function or maintaining pairing. Neither of us has a lot of contacts in our phone either but the few we have seem to be there. They both work fine in our '14 Limited with the 8.4AN and in our '11 Laredo X with the 430N

fumblefingers1 06-21-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Uconnect and Cell phone considerations to ponder
 
There was a comment by Torifile on the other thread about the Apple I5 and the Samung I4 drop test that touts the I5 over the S4 Sammy and that according the test I was all wet. I have been known to get things backwards from time to time to get people talking (ala Rush L). Apple has made the I5 more durable with an aluminum back. I would not recommend any cell be abused. (I have my current cell in a leather case because I have dropped it a number of times) (fumblefingers) :)
The rub probably comes from earlier versions of the Apple I phones that were very expensive shattered fobbles of Gorilla glass and the latest versions are more durable


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