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allypally 06-30-2013 08:43 PM

The Towing thread
 
Please place your queries and comments regarding towing, towbars, wiring, Brake Controllers, and any other Aussie towing matters here.

This way the information will be contained, and others will not need to plough though other irrevelent threads to find info.

allypally 06-30-2013 09:00 PM

Re: The Towing thread
 
For those recently purchased a Grand Cherokee, or about to purchase one, there are differences between the US towpack and that supplied to Australian export cars.
Towbar : The towbar used in the US does not comply to our standards, and therefore is not installed at the factory. Australia uses a bar manufactured in New Zealand by BEST BARS, and sold though the Mopar.AU site. Most dealers use this bar and hitch. Hayman Reece also do a suitable bar, but that bar is not 100% compatible, so the rear recovery hitch needs to be removed. Also just be aware that if you go the Hayman Reese towbar option you will NOT be able to fit the Long Range Automotive aux fuel tank. It was designed around the Mopar one only
Wiring: The towpack issues in the US includes the loom for brake controllers. For some reason, the Australian cars do not have this loom installed. You therefore need to wire a brake controller to power and the rear of the car. When dealers install a towbar, they leave a blue wire sitting up behind the rear passenger side panel (behind where the torch is stored).
Many owners recommend a 6mm wiring for controllers, and 6b&S wiring fort Anderson Plugs.

GlennR 07-01-2013 01:59 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
Good thread AllyPally. I've got a couple of comments.
Firstly, I have the dealer fitted BB from NZ and although they will not supply direct to the public (yet) the aftersales from the Melbourne rep is outstanding. Secondly, a chance discussion in the office last week has given me a potential problem. I tow a boat that weighs 2.25T on the tandem trailer. My trailer (manufactured 1997) has a TARE of 1990kg. I'm told many manufacturers in that time kept the TARE below 2T to avoid hydraulic brakes and brake controllers per ADR. Whilst I have cable operated overides, I wonder what the outcome would be in an insurance claim involving the trailer? The back axle has lugs so a retrofit to new calipers is possible....I wonder how much though including a brake controller, new 6mm cable and an Anderson?

GMWK2 07-01-2013 02:39 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
Quote:

I wonder how much though including a brake controller, new 6mm cable and an Anderson?
You may find that it is nearly cheaper to buy a whole new trailer. I've noticed that there are now trailers being imported as knock down kits from China.

They have aluminium side rails but gal cross bars so I'm not sure how they would go long term with the differing metals in contact with each other.

GlennR 07-01-2013 05:19 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMWK2 (Post 851073)
You may find that it is nearly cheaper to buy a whole new trailer. I've noticed that there are now trailers being imported as knock down kits from China.

They have aluminium side rails but gal cross bars so I'm not sure how they would go long term with the differing metals in contact with each other.

Cheers. Any further info on the imports. I was told $9k for a gal and around $11k for ally that I will never get back if I sell the boat.

Zillajnr 07-01-2013 06:38 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
I thought i read somewhere that the rear recovery hook is also removed now in the MY14 even on the US vehicles. You would use the tow bar as the rear recovery point then.

allypally 07-01-2013 07:40 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
I have seen a MY14 and it had the rear recovery hook. However, if you installed the Hayman Reese towbar, you could use it, with a suitable adapter, for recovery.

GMWK2 07-01-2013 08:00 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
Quote:

Any further info on the imports.
Have a look at these :

http://petersontrailers.com.au/contact-us/

Duralum Trailers :: Aluminium Trailers

They say Australian made, but I suspect that means bolted together.

Every second boat at the Rosehill trailer boat show a few months ago was sitting on this style of trailer.

Your boat sounds a fair bit bigger than mine - I have an 18" bowrider so I don't really have a feel for what a trailer for a boat your size would cost. A few years ago I looked into a replacement for my Boeing, and they quoted $4,500. But I give mine the once over every year and it still has a fair bit of life in it yet. Boeing are fairly close to where I live and I can drop in and easily get spare parts etc, so I'm happy to support a local company.

Matty470 07-01-2013 08:05 AM

Re: The Towing thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allypally (Post 851126)
However, if you installed the Hayman Reese towbar, you could use it, with a suitable adapter, for recovery.

This is what I would be doing, as I'd rather pull from the centre of the car, if ever needed.

Also just be aware that if you go the Hayman Reese towbar option you will NOT be able to fit the Long Range Automotive aux fuel tank. It was designed around the Mopar one only. (anyone want an HR towbar??)

allypally 07-01-2013 04:14 PM

Re: The Towing thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty470 (Post 851141)
This is what I would be doing, as I'd rather pull from the centre of the car, if ever needed.

Also just be aware that if you go the Hayman Reese towbar option you will NOT be able to fit the Long Range Automotive aux fuel tank. It was designed around the Mopar one only. (anyone want an HR towbar??)

Thanks for that, I have added it to the 2nd post, where I will endeavour to highlight those critical bits of info.

John47 07-01-2013 06:23 PM

Re: The Towing thread
 
for those wanting a brake controller, (and it isn't a really difficult DIY if you are even a bit handy), this supplier has the best prices I've seen for quality Tekonsha P2 and P3 units. They also have cable and Anderson plugs, plus heaps of other stuff.
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John

mtech 07-01-2013 06:35 PM

Re: The Towing thread
 
For the minority that it affects, HR have stated that theirs is also not compatible with the SRT model. I was leaning that way first because of ability to use different tongues, recovery hooks, etc but no go.

I also heard somewhere that the brake controller must not obstruct the knee airbag, do we have any info or how are people getting around this?


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