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markp99 08-27-2013 12:23 PM

Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
I was out washing my 2011 Limited this weekend and noticed a tiny amount of RUST forming along the perimeter of the center cap on my wheels. I also noticed a bit of a rusty stain on the alloy wheels themselves.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r.../centercap.jpg
Not my wheels, but similar issue.

These caps are simply chrome plated pieces, correct? Or maybe the rust/stain is coming from behind (hubs/rotors)?

How to remove these caps? Not really room to inset a screwdriver in the gap. How about safely removing the rusty stain without affecting the wheel finish?

Ideas?

Thanks!

Note: The finish on my 2000 and 2004 JGC alloy wheels totally failed and flaked over time - I surely want to avoid a similar situation on my 2011!

markp99 08-27-2013 12:35 PM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
This is exactly my fear. The alloy clearcoat has failed on these rims in this same area:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/attac...eady-wheel.jpg
Again, not my wheels...yet...

I need to clear this up ASAP.

lstowell 08-27-2013 12:52 PM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
The cap should just push out from the rear unless it has corroded in place.

It will only get worse... once you get it cleaned up, you might want to look at ProtectaClear wheel

http://www.everbritecoatings.com/wheels.html

tommydonnelly 08-28-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
I'd also like to know if someone has figured out a solution. This is beginning to happen to my '11 Laredo X... Is this a "bumper to bumper" warranty issue???

markp99 08-28-2013 08:21 PM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
With minimal corrosion like shown in the image above, I am leaning toward NOT refinishing the the whole wheel - yet. I think the best we can hope is to LIMIT the progression of this clearcoat failure and corrosion. Both my prior Jeeps did start off small but did eventually progress to affect the WHOLE wheel.

I am thinking trying to limit water/salt/brake dust infiltration will help slow this down. To this end, I plan to:

1. Scrub the area with a strong detergent and stiff brush (not sandpaper or dremel).

2. Once clean and dry, apply a clearcoat touch-up using a pen like this: Amazon.com: Dupont-Pro-Fusion Color Car Clear Coat Scratch Repair Stick Touch Up Pen For All Paint Colours: Automotive

3. Allow to dry, then apply good quality wax to the whole wheel, treating it like a normal painted surface, especially in the affected area.

4. Pay closer attention to these areas when washing the vehicle...


Any thoughts on this process??

Thanks

tommydonnelly 09-08-2013 06:46 AM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markp99 (Post 884223)
With minimal corrosion like shown in the image above, I am leaning toward NOT refinishing the the whole wheel - yet. I think the best we can hope is to LIMIT the progression of this clearcoat failure and corrosion. Both my prior Jeeps did start off small but did eventually progress to affect the WHOLE wheel.

I am thinking trying to limit water/salt/brake dust infiltration will help slow this down. To this end, I plan to:

1. Scrub the area with a strong detergent and stiff brush (not sandpaper or dremel).

2. Once clean and dry, apply a clearcoat touch-up using a pen like this: Amazon.com: Dupont-Pro-Fusion Color Car Clear Coat Scratch Repair Stick Touch Up Pen For All Paint Colours: Automotive

3. Allow to dry, then apply good quality wax to the whole wheel, treating it like a normal painted surface, especially in the affected area.

4. Pay closer attention to these areas when washing the vehicle...


Any thoughts on this process??

Thanks


Sounds like a good process. Let me know how it works out. With winter right around the corner, I'm looking to "solve" this problem too.

BobT 09-08-2013 07:14 AM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
It looks like rust staining. The wheel is alloy and the cap is plastic so not much to rust except for steel cir-clip that holds the cap in place. If it is that, you will need to replace it or if there is enough metal left, treat it with rust converter.

covet66 09-08-2013 09:05 AM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
My 20" rims and caps are currently spotless- to keep them that way I am hoping to have enough money to purchase winter rims and tires and remove/clean/protect, and store the nice rims for the nasty winter ahead.

Tarponbeach 09-08-2013 09:33 AM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BobT (Post 889834)
It looks like rust staining. The wheel is alloy and the cap is plastic so not much to rust except for steel cir-clip that holds the cap in place. If it is that, you will need to replace it or if there is enough metal left, treat it with rust converter.

Agree, I usually pre-treat steel like these cir-clips with Permatex anti seize. It is aluminum in color, and works pretty well in keeping rust away.

unimatrixzer0 09-08-2013 10:34 AM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
Wouldn't this be covered under warranty? Don't they warrant against rust for a certain amount of time or is that only on certain components? I recently noticed what I think is rust behind my gas cap for instance.

jgc4ever 09-08-2013 05:16 PM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
http://www.jeep.com/crossbrand/warra...p_Warranty.pdf

What's covered under Chrysler Group LLC's Warranties
2.2 Corrosion Warranty
A. Who Is Covered?
You are covered if you are a purchaser for use of the
vehicle.
B. What’s Covered
This warranty covers the cost of all parts and labor
needed to repair or replace any sheet metal panels that
get holes from rust or other corrosion. If a hole occurs
because of something other than corrosion, this warranty
does not apply. Cosmetic or surface corrosion — resulting,
for example, from stone chips or scratches in the
paint — is not covered. For more details on what isn’t
covered by this warranty, see 3.5.
C. How Long It Lasts
The Corrosion Warranty starts when your Basic Limited
Warranty begins under 2.1(E).
This warranty has two time-and-mileage limits:

For sheet metal panels, the limit is 36 months, with no
mileage limit.


For an outer-body sheet metal panel — one that is
finish-painted and that someone can see when walking
around the vehicle — the limits are 5 years or

100,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs

first.


3.5 Certain Kinds of Corrosion Not Covered
Your warranties don’t cover the following:


corrosion caused by accident, damage, abuse, or

vehicle alteration;

surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial
fallout, sand, salt, hail, ocean spray, and stones;


corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal transport
of caustic materials like chemicals, acids, and
fertilizers; and


corrosion of special bodies, body conversions, or

equipment that was not on your vehicle when it left


the manufacturing plant or was not supplied by

Chrysler.









mswlogo 09-08-2013 06:32 PM

Re: Rust - Limited Center Caps - Remove/Replace?
 
Could the "rust" be coming from the rotor hub itself and working it's way out.

If water gets in there, I'm sure it does, then it will forum a rust soup.

That might eat at the finish of the wheel.

The wheel and cap I don't think will have "Iron" rust.

Any place water can collect, needs a drain to get rid of it quick and allow it to dry.

I wonder if putting a fine notches in the cap might be worth it.


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