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stonefarg-NM 09-16-2013 10:46 PM

Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
Hello everyone, I have been trying to research the possible cause of a code that just popped up on my WJ 4.7 (1999). The code is P0171 or fuel mixture too lean bank 1.

The first I noticed was Saturday when I started it took two tries and rough idle for a minute or so then all normal for a 50 mile trip. Next two times hard to start then 'check engine light comes on. Today same story, but seems like its not getting enough fuel.

The more you search, the more possibilities there are for the problem. ...seen O2 sensor, Map sensor, vacuum leak, fuel filter, pump, bad gas, air filter & more. My question for you more knowledgable owners is where would be the best place to start? I looked for the obvious vacuum leaks today.

I had a theory that six solid days of rain contaminated the fuel I just bought and finished off the filter/regulator. I was going to check the fuel pressure first. Any wise pointers would be awesome. It is not smoking or stalling- really drives fairly normal after it starts other than occasional slight hesitation and crappy mileage according to the VIC.

Thanks for reading !!


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Frango100 09-16-2013 11:09 PM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
Crappy gas milage and the code P0171 sounds as a problem with O2 sensor.
I would not expect problems with the gas or fuel filter, otherwise the other bank should have the same problem. Does the exhaust smell raw gas, which would be an indication of too much fuel. Eventhough you got a fuel mixture too lean message, if the O2 sensor is faulty it could measure a lean mixture, while it is rich. Would explain the rough idle and higher then normal fuel consumption.
Do you have a scanner which shows live data? If not, and you have an Android phone, you could get the free app named Torque. You then only need a bluetooth dongle, which fits in the OBDII port and makes the connection between the android and the jeep.
You can then check the O2 sensor voltage. There are 4 O2 sensors, 2 upstream sensors (upstream of the mini cats) and 2 downstream sensors (so downstream of the mini cats). The upstream sensors are directly related to the fuel injection finetuning, while the downstreams are more for the mini cat performance.
Bank 1 upstream sensor is shown as 1-1, while the bank 2 upstream sensor is shown as 2-1 (the downstream sensors are the 1-2 and 2-2).
The voltage of the O2 sensor should go up and down in between 0.2V and 0.8 V and should do this change very often. If the reading is fixed or jumping a bit only, the O2 sensor needs to be changed.
Further to this, if the previous seems to be ok, you could check the fuel trim values calculated by the PCM.
These figures are shown as STFT and LTFT, which stands for Short Term Fuel Trim and Long Term Fuel Trim.
The STFT is the actual fuel trim , while the LTFT is an average over a longer period.
Let us know what you find.

stonefarg-NM 09-17-2013 12:05 AM

That is the coolest app EVER. I just ordered the BT dongle so I can use it. Meanwhile, Im going to have a mechenic hook it up and see what he can figure out. I really hate to drive it like that. Thanks for your reply, and I will update the post when there is an answer.

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stonefarg-NM 09-17-2013 12:07 AM

PS , I'll tell him about the O2 sensors and fuel trim.

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stonefarg-NM 09-18-2013 10:45 PM

SOLVED! turned out to be a clogged fuel filter/regulator. Everything back to normal.
Thanks for the help.

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Frango100 09-18-2013 11:04 PM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
Good to hear its solved, and even a cheap fix:thumbsup:.

murphy 10-04-2015 12:09 PM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
Just had my JGC 2014 eco-diesel in and they changed my MAP & O2 sensors; now one week later my engine light is on again; the code is P0171 system 2 lean bank one; why is this happening??

Trav1s 10-04-2015 12:13 PM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murphy (Post 1225942)
Just had my JGC 2014 eco-diesel in and they changed my MAP & O2 sensors; now one week later my engine light is on again; the code is P0171 system 2 lean bank one; why is this happening??

Wrong sub forum - You need the WK2 section.

Gtx15 11-25-2015 03:14 PM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
I'm having this problem now p0171 p0455 442 going to change the fuel filter to start with! :(

Frango100 11-26-2015 04:36 AM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
I have a P0174 code on my jeep (too lean bank 2)and traced it back to a too low fuel pressure. The scanner with live data showed a very high LTFT (long term fuel trim) of about +30 for both banks and then indeed the fuel pressure was only 25 psi after and even before the fuel filter/regulator. New pump and filter are on their way now.
Since you also have the P0455 and P0442 (large EVAP leak), there is a good change that your problem is due to a vacuum leak. I would check the EVAP lines first.
Do you have a scanner with live data to check the fuel trims?

Gtx15 11-26-2015 09:49 AM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
:confused:

Gtx15 11-26-2015 12:17 PM

Re: Possible problems related to Code P0171
 
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/a...A2C4886FC7.jpg found that one it was loose and cracked cut it and put back together could have been my 455 hopefully


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