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Zybane 09-21-2013 12:51 PM

Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
I am coming from a Rubicon Unlimited that I am used to modding. I have a Grand Cherokee Summit Diesel (Granite Crystal) inbound that I will customize for a more "off-road" flare/use. Any input/thoughts on the build are always welcome.

For modifications, I will start with purchasing a whole slew of items from Rocky Road Outfitters.

I have spoken with them and they are pretty sure the winch mount will be identical. They will just have to create a new bumper plate for the 2014+:

http://www.rocky-road.com/media/wk2-...te-picture.jpg


Since mine is a Summit, I will have to completely remove the lower front fascia. This will allow mounting of the OEM tow hooks and support for the winch mount. I am also interested in getting the above front prerunner skid plate, but I'd have to get pretty creative with custom mounting the adaptive cruise control "eye". Most likely cut a circle hole in the middle of the skid plate and use a custom bracket to mount the eye. Anyone know how the eye is mounted on the stock lower trim? Some sort of plastic bracket with screw "leveling"?

MOPAR trailhawk tow hooks:

http://moparonlineparts.com/images/w...railhawk_2.jpg


For the winch, definitely going Warn since they are USA made and are top quality. I'd like to get a top of the line model with synthetic line, so thinking about the 9.5Xp or 9.5cti (not sure what the real difference is besides looks).

As for rocker rails, pretty much have to go with the MOPAR. They are the only ones that extend out and also go full-length that I could find:

http://moparonlineparts.com/images/j...e_82212157.jpg


Also being a Summit, I don't care for the body-colored wheel arch trim. I will be installing the Bushwacker flares and keeping them stock black:

http://www.rocky-road.com/media/bushwacker-wk2.jpg


Now, does anyone know if the OEM skid plates are any good? (The Summit doesn't come with any, so will have to purchase). They are pretty cheap on the MOPAR website, only around $80 each. Being that cheap, are they actual metal?

I will most likely end up with the Rocky-Road 3-piece set:

http://www.rocky-road.com/media/wk2_skidplate2_med.jpg
http://www.rocky-road.com/media/wk2_fueltank_med.jpg

Is there any gaps that need to be filled between the Rocky-Road plates and the MOPAR ones? Are the adventure pack II skid plates plastic?

As for wheels, most likely going to go with the ones from the MOPAR buyers guide. 18" in black:

http://moparonlineparts.com/images/82212377.JPG


I'll just have to find the largest off-road tire I can fit on there with the air suspension and not rub. I know someone put 32" on there, thinking if I can make 33" fit maybe with a small spacer. Of course you then run into the issue of not having a spare of proper size. Diameter being the most important. Was considering looking for a tire not as wide as the stock one, but the same diameter as the off-road ones. Since the stock spare sit's in a recess in the trunk, a larger diameter tire would need to ride above the recess and hence be not as wide (tall) while laying flat. There happens to be enough room back there for a 32-33" tire with the removable "cradle" sections removed, but it would have to be pretty thin in order for the floor above the tire to lay flat. Not sure if such a crazy tire exists.

Not really worried about the small loss in performance with the slightly larger tires being a Diesel and all.

That leads me to all of the chrome on the Summit has to go! Is all of that chrome not actual metal but the standard chrome painted plastic? All of the chrome will be painted Satin black. Just curious about the way to go about it. Sand down the chrome, prime and paint? Looking for something that can hold up for years outdoors. Are those huge mirrors just "capped" with chrome or do I need to repaint the whole thing?

I'd like to get the SRT vented hood as long as the price isn't astronomical. When you order one of those things, do they come color matched or does your dealer need to paint them? So far I can not find the hood in the MOPAR system.

I'd be getting the full slush-mats front/rear and cargo tray.

Considering clear-bra'ing the hood/front bumper/fenders and sides of the car. Anyone ever price that out to help with minimizing pin-striping?

MOPAR also lists a rear fog light kit. Are the standard items on the bottom corners just reflectors? I am curious as to the wiring and how it would connect:

http://moparonlineparts.com/images/j...e_82212166.jpg


Other standard items I would have in the vehicle are:

Air compressor for airing up tires for after off-road
Collapsible shovel/axe/pick kit bag.
Tool/survival kit
Winch/snatch blocks/tow straps/shackles kit bag
10,000 lb Pull-Pal
Fire Extinguisher
MRE's/Water

And to top it off with the proper badges:

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/edito...ctic-badge.jpg


Should be fun!

BF07 09-21-2013 01:13 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Awesome! Can't wait to see results.

jeepinAl 09-21-2013 01:55 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
I guess we just found out who won the South Carolina Lotto last week. Happy building.

JeepGCOverland 09-21-2013 03:15 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Sounds awesome! I will be following this build for sure. :thumbsup:

f1anatic 09-21-2013 04:33 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Well if you find that after installing the winch, your front mounted proximity sensors don't work, I will relieve you of them and of the afferent module...since you don't seem to care for it.

Looking forward to your build.

Zybane 09-21-2013 06:01 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Thanks guys. Looking closer at this pic:

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/20...t-front-02.jpg

Look's like the winch setup may be close to those inner two proximity sensors, but may just clear.

Anyone interested in brand new Summit wheels and tires at a large discount? ;)


Good news is I found a picture of an unknown model with the lower facia removed:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6559/rjdq.jpg

Look's like the adaptive cruise eye has it's own bracket in the center. All I would need to do on the skid-plate is cut out a hole in the center large enough for it to "see" through.

Just checking some stock Summit photo's:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8237/8...5523097d_b.jpg

Man, they really made those wheel openings pretty small. The Summit has a stock 30" tire. Look's like the most that would fit would be a 32" with the closest tolerance being right in front of the rear wheels.

Those fender flares look a bit odd also, do all 2014+ have those same flares and are the same as pre-2014?

JeepGCOverland 09-21-2013 06:20 PM

The model in the picture of a GC with the fascia removed is an Overland.

The Summit has different fender flares than the rest of the lineup.

It sounds like you may be better suited to an Overland. It is only lacking a few of the Summit's features, and will require a lot less work to get it where it sounds like you want it. I also heard that the Mopar Rock Rails don't fit on the Summit. The Summit's fascia is also technically not removable.

Jim_in_PA 09-21-2013 07:29 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Very ambitious, but it sounds like it will be a very nice build when you are completed.

I'll echo some of JeepGCOverland's thoughts, however...the MY14 Summit has a lot of differences in the body from other trim levels that are going to make using certain aftermarket stuff a lot harder. Your work may end up being a lot harder than it might seem to be at first thought.

Zybane 09-21-2013 07:46 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Nice, some good points guys. I had to go with the Summit as it had some must-haves for me like the 19-speaker Harmon/Kardon system, the Grand Canyon Brown interior and the adaptive headlights.

Now that you guys mention it, I've noticed that they have three different front bumpers on this vehicle! The Lerado, Limited and Overland share a bumper, Summit and SRT have their own. Look's like the fender "flare" is molded into the bumper. I just wonder if the wheel well flare on the actual fender is built in or is it secured over the side and mounted from below. Look's like I may have my work cut-out for me! (pun intended).

So that also begs the question, they have whole multiple fenders, rear doors and rear quarter panels on the 2014+ also just for the different models looks? Seems like a lot of expense if they do..

As for the MOPAR Rock [/URL]rails, looks like you completely remove the stock effects on the sides so I don't think there should be an issue there. You can get a good image of them in this video:

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wNEsm125g"]

I'd also kill for those great custom fender flares on that concept.

moosehead 09-21-2013 08:43 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Subscribed, congrats on the new rig and enjoy the build.

Check the tire/wheel subforum for some ideas. IIRC, biggest with quadralift is 32" rubber, though some may have tried larger with lifts. You'll maybe be wanting a new sub enclosure and separate amp. How about a roof rack?

Zybane 09-21-2013 08:59 PM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moosehead (Post 897471)
Subscribed, congrats on the new rig and enjoy the build.

Check the tire/wheel subforum for some ideas. IIRC, biggest with quadralift is 32" rubber, though some may have tried larger with lifts. You'll maybe be wanting a new sub enclosure and separate amp. How about a roof rack?

Ya, I've been looking over there a bit and I think I will only know for sure once the vehicle arrives and I can crawl under/around it and take some measurements. Toss in some wheel spacers, trim some fender liners etc could make a large difference.

Could you elaborate more on the sub enclosure/amp? I think all of that stuff is built in with the 19-Speaker H/K setup. Been thinking about the RRO roof rack, but would only put that on when on a trip etc.

I think I may have a solution for the spare. Found a pretty narrow Silentarmor tire that is 32.x inches and it has a narrow tread width of only 9". If I deflate that and remove the stock spare tire cradle I may be able to get that to lay under the covering just fine.

Anyone else notice there is a lot of room under the spare tire area between the exhaust pipes? Already thinking of what I could store there lol.

OCBjeeP118 10-02-2013 11:48 AM

Re: Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build
 
Subscribed as well, I'm siked to see where you go with this! The ARCTIC badge is tough, btw! Nice choice


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