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YjagetaJeep 10-04-2013 01:23 AM

I saw that video on TV recently of the police chief hitting a pedestrian while driving what appeared to be a WK2 and immediately thought about my own JGC.
Now, don't get me wrong. ..I freakin love my GC, but I've had a couple of incidents where I didn't see things that were blocked by the thick "A" pillars combined with the placement of the side view mirrors
Maybe it's just me...This is a new vehicle and maybe it takes some getting used to....but I was wondering if any of you guys found the same thing.

SLLJG 10-04-2013 06:15 AM

Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility
 
Yes!

bill_de 10-04-2013 06:24 AM

Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility
 
Some people and some cars just don't fit. I find the Jeep better (for me) than my MDX.

A friend of mine just got rid of a fairly new Caddy that their daughters bought for them. The reason was his wife complained she was afraid to drive it because she couldn't see past the left a-pillar and mirror. She had been driving a Lincoln for four years and said the visibility was great.

Redealmaker 10-04-2013 06:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YjagetaJeep (Post 903920)
I saw that video on TV recently of the police chief hitting a pedestrian while driving what appeared to be a WK2 and immediately thought about my own JGC.
Now, don't get me wrong. ..I freakin love my GC, but I've had a couple of incidents where I didn't see things that were blocked by the thick "A" pillars combined with the placement of the side view mirrors
Maybe it's just me...This is a new vehicle and maybe it takes some getting used to....but I was wondering if any of you guys found the same thing.

Agreed, I've almost hit several pedestrians and other cars. ! When I first bought mine I was ready to trade it in because I thought it was horribly dangerous because you really can't see people in cross walks if they fall behind the pillars. I'm not a small guy, 5'11 185 lbs so it's not that, it's a definite design flaw. after much adjusting of the seats, being extra careful and generally getting used to this it's manageable but still a real problem if you ask me.

Route 66 10-04-2013 06:57 AM

Maybe I should have ordered the Technology Package...

Hammerhead 10-04-2013 08:14 AM

Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility
 
Don't the side airbag curtains in most vehicles require bigger A pillars? My WK and 2002 Durango also hve rather large pillars.

vnbWK2 10-04-2013 08:20 AM

A few weeks ago I almost ran over one of my neighbors crossing the street as I was making a left. I think the large mirrors are more of the problem with blind spots rather than the A pillars. I tried a higher seat position but same problem. They need to make the mirrors at least 1 inch shorter in height.

Specx 10-04-2013 08:32 AM

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At first it took some getting use to adjusting from my Ram which sits higher and has great visibility (larger windshield and mirrors) to this which sits lower and feels more enclosed, but I don't see it as a problem anymore.

yjbeach 10-04-2013 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammerhead (Post 904000)
Don't the side airbag curtains in most vehicles require bigger A pillars? My WK and 2002 Durango also hve rather large pillars.


You are correct sir. That is the reason for the large A-pillar in most vehicles. Safety for in car passengers has gone up. You won't see those smaller A pillars found on early 90's version.

Bborzell 10-04-2013 09:16 AM

Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility
 
(Fade in Twilight Zone theme...)

My wife and I were heading to Costco yesterday and we were sitting in a U turn lane waiting for the light to change. As it went green, a woman to our left decided to turn right on her red light which pretty much placed her in the same time/space continuum that we were about to occupy.

The A pillar and mirror effectively blocked her from my immediate vision, but the auxiliary U turn warning device in the front passenger seat quickly alerted me to the presence of the offending vehicle. I was able to adjust accordingly.

As long as we fully utilize all of the safety warning devices in the GC, I don't think that the sizes of the pillar and side mirror are that big of a deal.

(Returning to normal programming...)

2012 Summit 10-04-2013 09:22 AM

Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility
 
Since owning my WK2 I have hit 17 pedestrians (family members & neighbors) and almost hit another 15 or so strangers. I feel lucky that I knew all of the victims and the injuries were mostly minor. If I had hit the strangers, I may have been subjected to a law suit. It's been a lot better lately because the wife, children, grandchildren, and neighbors are all aware of the design flaw and pretty much stay out of my way. I still worry about the uninformed strangers though. :) :D ;) :rolleyes:

Jim_in_PA 10-04-2013 09:41 AM

Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility
 
This is unfortunately an issue with many current generation vehicles, both because of style and because of accommodating safety mechanisms for airbags, rollover strength, etc. It's not WK2 specific, in other words...


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