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Caper 11-29-2013 04:47 PM

Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
Excited owner (10 days) of a 2014 Overland - (black/black, ACC, V6). First, love the machine - was a challenging wait as my rig was 12 weeks over due in arriving but I'm over that now.

Thought I would provide a few thoughts on my first 10 days of ownership. This has been sooooo helpful.

1) Have the 4.7 litre in my MY 2003 JGC - the V6 is every bit its equal in performance and shouldn't have a difficult time out performing in fuel economy.

2) Love the interior - accommodates both by 6'3" frame and the wife's 5'10" easily - seats are perfect, controls are intuitive and there's more than enough tech to keep you learning for weeks.

3) Sound system is not what I had hoped for - just stock but have heard and owned better in less up scale vehicles.

4) Love the headlights, I'm catching myself watching my reflection in store fronts, tail lights, etc... Hate the bulb in the fog lights - the head lights are snow white, bright and pop - the fog lights are dull, yellow and take away from the appearance of the rig with all the lights on.

5) Shark fin is simply too big - it stands way higher than anything I've owned before and is curiously awkward on the downward sloping roof line.

6) Was worried about the dead pedal (or lack of) from other posts I've read. Also concerned about the emergency break pedal placement. Happy to report both are fine - there is a "carpeted" formed dead peddle, not perfect but adequate. Break peddle not an issue for me anyway ( I sit low in the seat).

7) Absolutely love the advanced curse - not enough space here for me to sing the praises. Has trouble with vehicles taking off ramps in front as it wants to slow to their speed even though I'm staying on the highway but otherwise just a perfect option I almost passed on.

8) Should have went with the 18" rims - the 20s are nice but boring, was considering the ORA package for the 18s but in the end went with the 20s. I like the 18s more.

9) Have never had a vehicle that gave as much thought to the back seat passengers - heated seats, tilt back, USB plugins and loads of space.

10) Might have a shimmy at speeds over 115 kmph - there is a noticeable vibration at speeds over 115 kmph (or 70 mph) - its slight but it is there and its tied to that speed. I know there's an open thread somewhere on this and I will have to review to see if my issue is an issue.


Overall couldn't be happier. Fit and finish are spot on and the drive train is better than i expected. Keep in mind this is my 5th Grand Cherokee so my opinion is a little biased but this is without question the best yet (after 10 days anyway).

Setoutguy 11-29-2013 05:17 PM

Re: Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
[QUOTE=Caper;937944]Excited owner (10 days) of a 2014 Overland - (black/black, ACC, V6). First, love the machine - was a challenging wait as my rig was 12 weeks over due in arriving but I'm over that now.

Thought I would provide a few thoughts on my first 10 days of ownership. This has been sooooo helpful.


4) Love the headlights, I'm catching myself watching my reflection in store fronts, tail lights, etc... Hate the bulb in the fog lights - the head lights are snow white, bright and pop - the fog lights are dull, yellow and take away from the appearance of the rig with all the lights on.

I find the fog lights work. I dont care about the appearance of my GC with the lights on. I want lights that do their jobs and I dont care if they look purdy. A different bulb that matches the headlight just might not work in fog and snow. The yellow tint maybe an advantage in the fog.

Caper 11-29-2013 05:59 PM

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[QUOTE=Setoutguy;937954]
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Originally Posted by Caper (Post 937944)
Excited owner (10 days) of a 2014 Overland - (black/black, ACC, V6). First, love the machine - was a challenging wait as my rig was 12 weeks over due in arriving but I'm over that now.

Thought I would provide a few thoughts on my first 10 days of ownership. This has been sooooo helpful.


4) Love the headlights, I'm catching myself watching my reflection in store fronts, tail lights, etc... Hate the bulb in the fog lights - the head lights are snow white, bright and pop - the fog lights are dull, yellow and take away from the appearance of the rig with all the lights on.

I find the fog lights work. I dont care about the appearance of my GC with the lights on. I want lights that do their jobs and I dont care if they look purdy. A different bulb that matches the headlight just might not work in fog and snow. The yellow tint maybe an advantage in the fog.

I'm a shallow sort, I like the look or dislike, in the case, the white over yellow. As for fog, can say the colour is not the idea with fog lights, you want low placement with a low angle. Be happy to concede to any Newfie out there but we get our fair share here on the east coast of Nova Scotia. Fog is a frequent factor in the morning drive - fog lights help somewhat but not a whole lot. IMHO they are 70% show 30% effective.

Peter_K 11-29-2013 06:12 PM

Actually light color DOES matter for fog lamp effectiveness. Quite a bit in fact.

Setoutguy 11-29-2013 07:00 PM

Re: Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
Many many years ago Road and Track did a comparison test of the standard white halogen fog light and the standard French yellow one do see which one was better in obviously the fog. White fog light won. Now this back from the 70's or 80's if I remember correctly.

A fog light should have a very defined cut off vertically at about bumper height of a standard car and wide horizontal dispersion.

On my 2012 GC I find the fogs work great when visibility is down to less than 50 ft at 65 mph. They also do a good job with wet heavy snow. I was impressed that Jeep got it right. Many OEM fogs suck. BMW does it right.

fun2drive 11-29-2013 08:43 PM

Re: Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
My JGC is waiting on production so if I wanted to get ORAII I could but I really want the 20" wheels just don't want the shimmy I have been reading about in the 65 to 70 mph range. From what I read it is the Goodyear Fortura tires not balancing out or being out of round. This is the ONLY issue I have with my upcoming ride. It seems to be hit and miss too as some have it and some don't.

Appreciate all the inputs to your 10 days of ownership...

Setoutguy 11-29-2013 09:23 PM

Re: Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
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Originally Posted by fun2drive (Post 938032)
My JGC is waiting on production so if I wanted to get ORAII I could but I really want the 20" wheels just don't want the shimmy I have been reading about in the 65 to 70 mph range. From what I read it is the Goodyear Fortura tires not balancing out or being out of round. This is the ONLY issue I have with my upcoming ride. It seems to be hit and miss too as some have it and some don't.

Appreciate all the inputs to your 10 days of ownership...

You pay about the same for either Goodyear and Michelin tires. Michelin has significantly better quality control than Goodyear. Its been this way as far back as I can remember. I would go with the ORAII package. 20" wheels along with the Forturas do not provide any real world performance advantages over the 18" wheels and Michelins. ORAII package provides more real world bennies than 20" wheels.

Peter_K 11-29-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Setoutguy (Post 938000)
Many many years ago Road and Track did a comparison test of the standard white halogen fog light and the standard French yellow one do see which one was better in obviously the fog. White fog light won. Now this back from the 70's or 80's if I remember correctly. A fog light should have a very defined cut off vertically at about bumper height of a standard car and wide horizontal dispersion. On my 2012 GC I find the fogs work great when visibility is down to less than 50 ft at 65 mph. They also do a good job with wet heavy snow. I was impressed that Jeep got it right. Many OEM fogs suck. BMW does it right.

It'd be interesting to see that article and their setup. Generally speaking a color temperature closer to 3000K will generate the most usable light with the least amount of reflectivity in fog and similar conditions.

Setoutguy 11-30-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_K (Post 938059)
It'd be interesting to see that article and their setup. Generally speaking a color temperature closer to 3000K will generate the most usable light with the least amount of reflectivity in fog and similar conditions.

Search R&T site maybe there. If notice in Pro Rally, Baja and Sportscar racing they have never used the French yellow fog.

I want lights that work. On my VWs and BMWs I always ran Cibies or Hella headlights. Dont care if its halogen, HID, LED or a candle they just need to work and light up the road where I want it.

bill_de 11-30-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Setoutguy (Post 938000)
On my 2012 GC I find the fogs work great when visibility is down to less than 50 ft at 65 mph.


Not great enough. :rolleyes:



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kkreit01 12-03-2013 09:52 AM

Re: Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
3. I couldn't agree with you more. The Chrysler sound systems suck. They are a royal pain to upgrade as well. I have not heard the HK system. I sure hope it's much better. They really need to take some lessons from Lincoln here.

5. I agree. I never liked shark fins. I never could understand people installing aftermarket ones. I prefer the looks of the stubby antennas on the '11-13s.

8. There's nothing more boring (or worse) than the OE 18" Latitudes. They were nearly the worse OE tire I've had. They look horrible, and perform horrible in anything but dry pavement. I've had OE Forteras as well, and I'd pick them any day over the Latitudes. The Forteras as least look good. The Latitudes have a rounded face and droopy shoulders, that only a minivan could love. I replaced mine with Cooper A/T3s, and I couldn't be happier.

Caper 12-03-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Ten days ownership Ten observations
 
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Originally Posted by kkreit01 (Post 939576)
3. I couldn't agree with you more. The Chrysler sound systems suck. They are a royal pain to upgrade as well. I have not heard the HK system. I sure hope it's much better. They really need to take some lessons from Lincoln here.

5. I agree. I never liked shark fins. I never could understand people installing aftermarket ones. I prefer the looks of the stubby antennas on the '11-13s.

8. There's nothing more boring (or worse) than the OE 18" Latitudes. They were nearly the worse OE tire I've had. They look horrible, and perform horrible in anything but dry pavement. I've had OE Forteras as well, and I'd pick them any day over the Latitudes. The Forteras as least look good. The Latitudes have a rounded face and droopy shoulders, that only a minivan could love. I replaced mine with Cooper A/T3s, and I couldn't be happier.

Just ordered a set of Cooper snows (studded - can do that here) and some hideous black steels. Will be set for winter and may consider something for next spring to replace the Forteras.

I actually like shark fins but finding this one unusually high for some reason.

As for the sound system I'm not looking for much and that's kinda what I got. It does the job and I love the rest of the feature list.


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