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Wilkie 12-07-2013 02:47 PM

Oil question.
 
Hi I have a 2006 grand Cherokee diesel,in my manual it recommends 10w 40 fully synthetic on the web site wk mainteanance schedules they say 5w30 fully synthetic which one should I use. I find on all web sites selling oil that when I put in my reg they also say 5w30 fully synthetic.regards Martin

jeeper_57 12-15-2013 11:57 AM

Re: Oil question.
 
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Originally Posted by Wilkie (Post 941886)
Hi I have a 2006 grand Cherokee diesel,in my manual it recommends 10w 40 fully synthetic on the web site wk mainteanance schedules they say 5w30 fully synthetic which one should I use. I find on all web sites selling oil that when I put in my reg they also say 5w30 fully synthetic.regards Martin

5W40 or 5w30 for the wk ,
the 10w40 semi synthetic is not recommended for this truck but for former WJ

Wilkie 12-15-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Oil question.
 
Hi Thank goodness I bought the 5w30 fully synthetic.regards Martin.

jeeper_57 12-16-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Oil question.
 
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Originally Posted by Wilkie (Post 945912)
Hi Thank goodness I bought the 5w30 fully synthetic.regards Martin.

just take care that it fulfills the MB 229.51 norm :)

Wilkie 12-16-2013 02:56 PM

Re: Oil question.
 
Hi yes it is the oil is Total Quartz Ineo MC3 5W30 Engine Oil MERCEDES-BENZ :MB 229.31, MB 229.51.regards Martin.

ggrassmid 04-12-2014 01:12 AM

Re: Oil question.
 
I ordered Amsoil European formula for diesel and turbo cars. It is 5W30 Low SAPS and meets the MB229.51 specs with DPF installed. I plan on changing my filter every 7500 miles and oil every 15,000. I will have my first 15,000 checked by BlackStone Labs, free test kit and oil analysis costs $25. I'll see if they would then recommend more frequent oil changes or not. I also plan on getting a GDE EcoTune and removing the DPF which should also allow me to use the standard diesel amsoil and not be required to have low saps.

52233 07-10-2014 07:53 AM

Re: Oil question.
 
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Originally Posted by ggrassmid (Post 1006837)
I ordered Amsoil European formula for diesel and turbo cars. It is 5W30 Low SAPS and meets the MB229.51 specs with DPF installed. I plan on changing my filter every 7500 miles and oil every 15,000. I will have my first 15,000 checked by BlackStone Labs, free test kit and oil analysis costs $25. I'll see if they would then recommend more frequent oil changes or not. I also plan on getting a GDE EcoTune and removing the DPF which should also allow me to use the standard diesel amsoil and not be required to have low saps.


I use the same oil even with my tune, makes me sleep better! I change my oil every 12,000 km. love to know the lab results!

wingit 07-10-2014 08:48 AM

Re: Oil question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilkie (Post 941886)
Hi I have a 2006 grand Cherokee diesel,in my manual it recommends 10w 40 fully synthetic on the web site wk mainteanance schedules they say 5w30 fully synthetic which one should I use. I find on all web sites selling oil that when I put in my reg they also say 5w30 fully synthetic.regards Martin

Personally I would ask a tech at the service dept. My opinion would be to go with what the manual says. That is assuming your looking at the correct manual for the correct engine. I assume you just bought this used and have seen where manuals get switched by accident. If you use a lighter weight oil in an engine designed for a heavier weight than you increase the risk of engine wear.

omsok 12-07-2014 08:37 AM

Re: Oil question.
 
Hi:

Is that the OM642 Mercedes engine? I thought they were only in 2007-2009 model years. Mine is a 2007, manual says 5W30 Synthetic. Must meet oil spec MB 229.51 and be ACEA C3 qualified. That being said, mine has had 5W40 put in it for the last 47'000 kilometers by the previous owner. I do know a chief mechanic that used to work for Chrysler and now works for. Japanese brand, who says for his own vehicles he runs a little heavier. Depends on use, season,temperature; however safest bet is what manual says. http://www.pentosin.net/specsheets/P...e_II_5W-40.pdf


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jeeper_57 12-07-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by omsok (Post 1124589)
Hi:

Is that the OM642 Mercedes engine? I thought they were only in 2007-2009 model years. Mine is a 2007, manual says 5W30 Synthetic. Must meet oil spec MB 229.51 and be ACEA C3 qualified. That being said, mine has had 5W40 put in it for the last 47'000 kilometers by the previous owner. I do know a chief mechanic that used to work for Chrysler and now works for. Japanese brand, who says for his own vehicles he runs a little heavier. Depends on use, season,temperature; however safest bet is what manual says. http://www.pentosin.net/specsheets/P...e_II_5W-40.pdf

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3.0 CRD is the OM642 from Mercedes.
I have the 2005 year model.
5w30 and 5w40 are a bit alike only viscosity at high temperature is bit different. on some model years they specify one or the other, but the engine is totally the same I don't know of why.
As long as it's at my specs it's OK

ggrassmid 12-07-2014 07:32 PM

Re: Oil question.
 
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Here is my Oil Report.
I put in the Amsoil 5w30 Low SAPS after I bought the Jeep at around 154,000 miles on the engine. When I drained the sample, I did not run it before had and drain mixed/warm oil, I drained it after sitting all night. The drain was at 7500 miles on the oil, at which time I also changed the filter; but not the oil. I will run the oil another 7500 miles and do a FULL change at that time. The only outside of normal driving I did over the summer was 1 full day on the Silver Lake Dunes in Michigan, which was a pretty hard day on the engine. I did also do a DNR ORV Trail that was only 21 miles long, but that was pretty easy going.

Looking at the report, though this ends up being my baseline, I may want to change the filter at 5000 miles and full oil change at 10,000 instead of going for 15,000 on it. You will see their notes about the viscosity, and that the iron was almost double of what Universal Averages are. The silicon is higher than averages, which could be from a day at the dunes and may also contribute to the higher iron particulates.

ggrassmid 06-24-2015 10:03 AM

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Here is my full change report and my clean/new oil report.


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