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abarbs30 12-16-2013 01:30 PM

Overland Rear Tweeters - Do you need them?
 
So I am about to upgrade my rear speakers. I have already done the front with a nice set of Focal components. I wanted to see what you guys thought of the rear tweeters. Should I replace the rears with a set of components and put new tweeters in the rear pillars near the truck (where the current tweeters are located) or should I just put 6.5 two way speakers in the doors and disconnect the tweeters? Do the tweeters in the truck add anything? Or are they too far back. Wondering if the tweeters are that far away from the cones in the doors, will there be a delay in sound? I am going to eventually amp the entire system so I am putting top of the line speakers in all around.

Thanks!

Andoskyy 12-16-2013 01:51 PM

Re: Overland Rear Tweeters - Do you need them?
 
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Originally Posted by abarbs30 (Post 946294)
So I am about to upgrade my rear speakers. I have already done the front with a nice set of Focal components. I wanted to see what you guys thought of the rear tweeters. Should I replace the rears with a set of components and put new tweeters in the rear pillars near the truck (where the current tweeters are located) or should I just put 6.5 two way speakers in the doors and disconnect the tweeters? Do the tweeters in the truck add anything? Or are they too far back. Wondering if the tweeters are that far away from the cones in the doors, will there be a delay in sound? I am going to eventually amp the entire system so I am putting top of the line speakers in all around.

Thanks!

They're not tweeters, they're a 3.5" mid range speaker...same as the dash.

I do not think it'd be worth the time or money to replace them.

Keep in mind that components are different from a 2 way speaker. If you get a component and you don't use the tweeter, you have a midbass driver, not a full range speaker. You'd be missing a large piece of the frequency range if you just used a midbass driver in the rear doors. **Edited this because I misread your question. I think if you put the tweeters from the door speakers in the rear pillars, it'd sound very bad....especially since there 3.5" speakers there now. The soundstage would be very off, and being mounted so high, sound would bounce everywhere making it very unbalanced. I'd stick with 2 way speakers for the rear doors and leave the rear pillars as is"

These are the Focals i'm going with in the rear doors. Focal Integration IC 165 6-3/4" 2-way car speakers at Crutchfield.com

Which Focals did you go with in the front? I was going to go with HAT, but have decided on Focal ISS 690's...seeing they sell them on Amazon and I can use points :)

abarbs30 12-16-2013 02:02 PM

Re: Overland Rear Tweeters - Do you need them?
 
Thanks for the reply! I didn't realize they were 3.5's but that makes alot of sense now. I'll just use the integrations like you are in the rear doors. I guess there is no way to use components and mount a tweeter in the rear door without lots of fabrication....

I did Focal P165 V30 (6.5's) in the front doors.

Andoskyy 12-16-2013 02:12 PM

Re: Overland Rear Tweeters - Do you need them?
 
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Originally Posted by abarbs30 (Post 946319)
Thanks for the reply! I didn't realize they were 3.5's but that makes alot of sense now. I'll just use the integrations like you are in the rear doors. I guess there is no way to use components and mount a tweeter in the rear door without lots of fabrication....

I did Focal P165 V30 (6.5's) in the front doors.

You're welcome.

Even if you were to find a spot for tweeters in the rear doors, they really shouldn't be there, it will really mess up your sound stage.

If your primary listening area is the front seat, invest in a good set of front components, which you did, and use the 2-way integrations for rear fill.

abarbs30 12-16-2013 02:29 PM

Re: Overland Rear Tweeters - Do you need them?
 
Perfect, sounds like the plan.

Did you amp your speakers? If so, what LOC did you use? Did you leave the dash and rear piller speakers connected? I think if you amp a system you are pretty much required to disconnect those, but I could be completely wrong..

I'm thinking of using the JL, 900/5 HD.

Andoskyy 12-16-2013 02:38 PM

Re: Overland Rear Tweeters - Do you need them?
 
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Originally Posted by abarbs30 (Post 946342)
Perfect, sounds like the plan.

Did you amp your speakers? If so, what LOC did you use? Did you leave the dash and rear piller speakers connected? I think if you amp a system you are pretty much required to disconnect those, but I could be completely wrong..

I'm thinking of using the JL, 900/5 HD.

I didn't actually do anything yet, but I do not plan to amp them. I chose the Focals because of the high sensitivity ~94db's. For well under a grand, I think upgrading to high efficient speakers, which you also did, will get me to where I want to be. I will also be covering the stock subwoofer enclosure with fiberglass to stiffen it up. Bass is a bit muddy with that flimsy plastic enclosure.

I do not wish to spend the money to amplify the speakers the right way. It's very hard with modern systems to properly amplify aftermarket speakers, there are summing devices and digital processors involved in order to make things accurate and well balanced. A LOC won't do everything.

Do a search for a member named 1StJeepGC. He amplified his speakers truly the right way...but at a significant cost.

exlr8 12-16-2013 04:18 PM

Actually, the standard 10 speaker system has 2.5" in the D pillar but I would be interested to know if a 3.5" fits easily...


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