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1stJeepGC 01-13-2014 02:08 PM

Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
Greetings,

Nokian Rotiiva AT

It has been almost a year that I have had the Nokian Rotiva AT with 10k+ on them. To date I have not been able to use them in sand, heavy off-road usage including mud or deep snow. I have used them on lite off-road with excellent results. For an on-road/off-road all terrain tire, my gas mileage has not suffered due to the fact it is low rolling resistance tire. My city average is any where from 11 to 14 mpg, with the highway from 21.5 to 23.5 pending on speed and terrain. The tire pressure is kept at 35 psi.

Using Tirerack’s (they do not sell them) survey guide since most of us are familiar with their rating system, here is my other impressions and notes based on today:

Would buy again: 10
The tire was about $230.00 each when I brought them, IMO, it was worth it.
WET:
Hydroplaning Résistance: 9.5
Wet Traction: 9.0
The compound’s Nokian uses and the tread design is the key to this tire. Between the siping (the cuts or wiggle line on the tread block) and the tread pattern, the water has not built-up on me. I stay on course, even in turning and braking. I have driven them thru some nice heavy wind driven rain with flooded roads and found to have no problems.
DRY:

Cornering Stability: 8.8
Dry Traction: 10.0
Steering Response: 9.0
Dry traction is not a problem even with hot temperatures and hi-speed driving (80’s for me). I did find the steering response was a little off from liking when I was down in Georgia last September. This I believe was from the soft compound which Nokian uses. I have read reports that soft non-dedicated winter tires in warmer to hotter climate temperatures get mush. I found that not to be the case. For an aggressive tire, I was surprised how well this one handles in cornering.
WINTER/SNOW:

Light Snow Traction: 9.5
Deep Snow Traction: n/a
Ice Traction: 8.3
One of my major points when I was looking for new tires was how well it did in this category and I wanted the mountain flake symbol. In light snow I have absolute no problems and I did not even shift into snow mode or 4 Lo, since I have those features. In some moderate wet snow, I did use the snow mode just to play a little, no problem. Moderate dry snow was no problem. As I said earlier, I have had no opportunity in deep snow to try them out yet. Ice traction is very good. A few times I had to step on the brakes with out any problems. If my old tires was on, I am sure the result would not be so good. This performance is due to Nokian history in winter driving.
COMFORT:

Ride Comfort: 9.5
Noise Comfort: 8.7
Treadwear: 9.0
There are many different highway surfaces that I drive over, especially on the weekends. Rough surfaces, as always with an AT is noisy, but the Rotiva was not bad at all. Fair surfaces, they are smooth and quiet.. Smooth surfaces, yep, real quiet and smooth. This was from my first impressions at 1k. Now with 10k+ on them the ride comfort is still the same. The noise level did slip a little and I expect more at the 20k mark. A concrete paved road the noise is more pronounced than before. I am still impressed. At 5k, they were rotated and at 10k rotated and balanced. The treadwear is looking good and right on course.
If anybody has the Nokian Rotiva’s, feel free and chime in. I am interested in your findings.

Last year, when I was looking at tires, I was also looking at the Cooper AT3, Goodyear SilentAmor and the Toyo Country AT II to replace my BFG Rugged Terrian TA which I was not happy with. The tire was extremely noisy and had no serious traction for the winter.

Best for now.:)

SLLJG 01-13-2014 09:31 PM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
I've driven my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland for 8,400 miles (13 500 km) on Nokian Rotiiva AT 265/60-18 (114 T) tires and can report similar satisfying experiences.

These tires grip well, are quiet and comfortable, don't leak, and seem to be wearing evenly and slowly.

I haven't done any hard off-roading, yet, but the tires did well in a farmer's field, on unpaved roads, through deep mud puddles, and a few inches of snow.

Nokian Rotiiva AT tires are not all-season tires. They are European all-weather tires, certified as winter tires and useable year-round. The sidewall has the snowflake and mountain symbol.

I used Nokian WRG2 tires on my Audis and was pleased. I would buy Nokian again.

Vrrooom 01-14-2014 06:41 AM

I had the Nokian Rotiiva AT in my 2013 Overland and also agree with these ratings. Although I bought them for my 20s and there was only a Load E available so the ride was harsher than stock.

Since I sold my 13 Jeep for a 14 diesel and opted for the 18s, I'm considering the WRG2 SUV tires. It's tread looks more like a passenger SUV tire which would probably be smoother and also looks like it's geared towards snow and ice a little more than the Rotiiva which looks like it may sacrifice some snow and ice for off-road. Also looks like a winter tire suitable for all season driving. Anyone have experience with this?

AAAA 01-14-2014 08:57 AM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
I appreciate these updates. I am using the Michelin LTX M/S 2. They do not have the severe weather logo and are billed as a high mileage all season tire. The ride, noise and snow traction are excellent, BUT below 10F the rubber gets too hard (it is a high mileage compound) and the tire skates on road packed snow and ice. We have the Nokian WR G2 on our Subaru. Having the severe emblem, the compound is softer and the cold weather ice grip is great. I saw a WK2 with Nokian WR GR SUV's parked locally, but could not wait for the owner to return. It appears that since the WR G2 is not "AT" as the Rotiiva that it more of a highway tire. Different strokes for different folks.

1stJeepGC 01-15-2014 10:04 AM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SLLJG (Post 959396)

I haven't done any hard off-roading, yet, but the tires did well in a farmer's field, on unpaved roads, through deep mud puddles, and a few inches of snow.

Nokian Rotiiva AT tires are not all-season tires. They are European all-weather tires, certified as winter tires and useable year-round. The sidewall has the snowflake and mountain symbol.

Greetings,

Thank you for your reply. I pretty much did the same as you this past summer. Now I got my answer for the mud.

The Rotiva is the replacement for the previous AT tire, Vativa. This Rotiva now has the snowflake and mountain. Last year, when I spoke to Nokian USA, they also said it had some more improvements for winter use over the Vativa.

Best for now.:)

1stJeepGC 01-15-2014 10:20 AM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrrooom (Post 959560)
I had the Nokian Rotiiva AT in my 2013 Overland and also agree with these ratings. Although I bought them for my 20s and there was only a Load E available so the ride was harsher than stock.

Since I sold my 13 Jeep for a 14 diesel and opted for the 18s, I'm considering the WRG2 SUV tires. It's tread looks more like a passenger SUV tire which would probably be smoother and also looks like it's geared towards snow and ice a little more than the Rotiiva which looks like it may sacrifice some snow and ice for off-road. Also looks like a winter tire suitable for all season driving. Anyone have experience with this?

Greetings,

When I was doing my research last year and spoke directly to Nokian North America, at the time, they felt the WR G2 tire would be good for light off-road and nothing above that. I would call them directly to reconfirm. This way you know if you have to, you can.

The WR G2 has the more siping and at key areas needed for the ice for a non-studded tire. Also the compound is softer than the Rotiva.

Best for now.:)

RageOfFury 04-02-2014 06:41 PM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
How is the treadlife with the Rotiiva AT's now? Still good?

1stJeepGC 04-02-2014 08:14 PM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RageOfFury (Post 1002697)
How is the treadlife with the Rotiiva AT's now? Still good?

Greetings,

Right now I am close to 15K on them. So far, they are wearing down nicely. Plenty of tread left. Pretty much the same results as I reported at 10K. This is the first time I owned Nokian and mostly will stick with Nokian in the future. I have hit some potholes (like most of us) this winter season and the tire has help up better than I excepted.

Best for now.:)

MoparBob 05-21-2014 11:41 AM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
In your opinion, is the winter performance of these tires on par with dedicated winter tires?

SLLJG 05-21-2014 01:55 PM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
The Rotiiva AT's perform in snow better than an all-season tire, but not as good a winter tire, I should think. The Rotiivas performed well enough for me last winter, but I didn't encounter deep snow. I would buy them again.

1stJeepGC 05-21-2014 02:11 PM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SLLJG (Post 1025869)
The Rotiiva AT's perform in snow better than an all-season tire, but not as good a winter tire, I should think. The Rotiivas performed well enough for me last winter, but I didn't encounter deep snow. I would buy them again.

Greetings,

I have to agree as well and will buy them again.

I did hit about a foot of soft snow that was no problem.

For member MoparBob: It all depends on what you are going to use for and the climate conditions you are subject to in your area and the areas that you will be going to. The other question, do you need an AT tire?

Nokian dedicated tires are out of the world according to many. They have a new all season tire that performs almost like a dedicated snow tire in the WR G3. I understand that this fall new dedicated tires are going to introduced. Some of the one's ending in 7 will be come model 8s.

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f109/new-tire-73032.html

Hope this helps.

Best for now.:)

SLLJG 05-21-2014 09:05 PM

Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update
 
Nokian calls its Rotiiva and WRG3 tires "all-weather," rather than all-season because the Rotiiva and WRG3 are acceptable in states and provinces that require winter tires. All-season tires, which generally are designed to go through no more than two inches or five cm of snow, are unacceptable in those jurisdictions in winter. (I may be skating on this ice here, but I think that I've go the facts right.)

My 2004 Audi all road 4.2 had Nokian WRG2 tires. The WRG2 tires certainly weren't great summer tires, but did OK. One would hope that the WRG3 tires are better. If I didn't want all-terrrain (AT) tires, I'd put Nokian WRG3 SUV tires on my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee or perhaps another manufacturer's similar tire.


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