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Fght On 01-23-2014 07:19 PM

Opinions on R1 Drilled and Slotted Rotors
 
I'm speaking from experience - if you're looking for upgraded rotors don't waste you money on R1. They are cheap rotors and will be covered in surface rust w/in a day. If you really want a pair I will gladly give you mine once Brembo restocks their drilled rotors. It was a total waste of my money.

Will gladly send you pics if you would like proof.

When I called to report the issue and ask for some consideration - their response was take off the rotors and shoot them w high temp black, and once all the pad contact area wears off, the recessed areas will remain black and no more rust. That's not the kind of service I expect when I drop that kind of money for a part.

Strongjeff 01-24-2014 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fght On (Post 964465)
I'm speaking from experience - if you're looking for upgraded rotors don't waste you money on R1. They are cheap rotors and will be covered in surface rust w/in a day. If you really want a pair I will gladly give you mine once Brembo restocks their drilled rotors. It was a total waste of my money.

Will gladly send you pics if you would like proof.

When I called to report the issue and ask for some consideration - their response was take off the rotors and shoot them w high temp black, and once all the pad contact area wears off, the recessed areas will remain black and no more rust. That's not the kind of service I expect when I drop that kind of money for a part.

You dont know what your talking about. And before you say anything, I have r1 slotted rotors on mine and have been nothing but happy with their performance. ALL BRAKES get surface rust when exposed to moister. Yes I have seen, even brembo's get suface rust. No disk is corrosion proof. Did you buy r1 premium rotors or the economy ones. The economy rotors are not coated like the premium ones. You have apparently bought your brakes just for looks and not stopping Power.

Scottina06 01-24-2014 12:06 PM

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I can say that R1 uses centric brand rotors and drills them on site. This is NOT conducive to a quality drilled rotor IMHO. the brembo sports he speaks of are MORE corrosion resistant, do not have surface rust and are not drilled anywhere. the sports are designed for the drilled look with veins designed into the rotors to wick away brake gas and heat. I cam also say the brembo sports are lighter than the stock SRT brembos.
heres a pic of the veins designed into the sport rotors...this is IMPOSSIBLE for R1 rotors.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...psbdf9e584.jpg

robpp 01-24-2014 12:31 PM

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scott i agree that the brembos are at the top of the heap but the R1's are not crap. as you say they are centric rotors that they cut. they are not the cheapest chinese rotors money can buy/ just saying.

do the 2 compare not really as you said. if I had a 70K vehicle PRICE would not be where I would be shopping however for a wk1 or II hemi or v6 street car there is nothing wrong with R1 if you want an upgrade from oem.

Scottina06 01-24-2014 02:18 PM

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I agree...not crap at all. Just giving what I know about r1.

r1concepts 01-24-2014 08:34 PM

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Brembo rotors are reputable and great quality rotors. I should know, I have an account with them and sell their products. Brembos are made with a cast iron grade of G3000 using gray metal ore, which is the same grade metal as my E-line Series Rotors as far as metallurgy. Correct me if I am wrong, but from my understanding, I thought their vane structure was design to exact count as OEM design. Meaning, if the original rotor came with 60 vane structure count, the Brembo rotor will have the same. Or if the OEM rotors came with a curved or pillar vane design, the Brembo will too. Their drilled rotors are not pre-casted, and drilled after the mold has been made... but I apologize if I am incorrect, this is what I know.

Centric does not make rotor castings. The impact that Centric has on the brake rotor industry is their buy-in power and their innovative part numbering system. Before everybody was using the aamco part numbering system to categorize brake rotor castings until when Centric came out with their own system. Mostly everyone is now switching over to Centric system because it is easier to use (each number and position has a meaning to what vehicle the rotors belong to). Take a look at the Brembo Sport Rotor labels on the box, they also should have Centric part numbers for reference. I can supply anyone my rotors without the Centric part numbers on the rotors, but at what cost? It makes things easier for us over here.

Not only do we have our own line of products, I am a distributor for many other braking companies (Brembo, Rotora, Racing Brake, Centric, Project Mu, Hawk, Stoptech etc.). We also do machining work for many companies out there, but due to privacy contract, that information is disclosed. We do take pride in our machining work over here. when it comes down to the machining work that is done to the rotors (Workmanship). Here at R1, We drill our High Carbon Premier rotors in house using state-of-the-art CNC machines and follow strict procedures and standards such as drilling between each vane structure (I am sure Brembo is doing the same, so I rep for them too). This will allow the rotor to retain its structural integrity and overall strength with optimum thermal transfers. We utilize smaller diameter drill bits to create smaller diameter holes than most companies and each hole is counter-sunk to add strength and lessen the chance of stress cracks. We also offer Cryo Treatment for those who would like the extra strength.

r1concepts 01-24-2014 08:42 PM

re: Opinions on R1 Drilled and Slotted Rotors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fght On (Post 964465)
I'm speaking from experience - if you're looking for upgraded rotors don't waste you money on R1. They are cheap rotors and will be covered in surface rust w/in a day. If you really want a pair I will gladly give you mine once Brembo restocks their drilled rotors. It was a total waste of my money.

Will gladly send you pics if you would like proof.

When I called to report the issue and ask for some consideration - their response was take off the rotors and shoot them w high temp black, and once all the pad contact area wears off, the recessed areas will remain black and no more rust. That's not the kind of service I expect when I drop that kind of money for a part.

The Brembo rotors comes with a Zinc rust protection coating, just like my Eline Series rotors, where the whole rotor is dipped in it. Still this is not anti rust proof but it seems to hold off the rust better because the whole rotor is entirely dipped into the rust protection.

However the Premium rotors do come with a black E-Coat rust protection coating but only applied to the center hub, inner vane structure, and outer rim of rotor. That will hold off the rusting quite well, however no iron rotor out there is an anti rust proof. I apologize but if there is going to be any rust appearance on the rotors; it should be around the crevices of the holes and the slots or close around the hub (where the brake pads can't come into contact with to swoop the rust away).

PM me your order and name on the order. I will take a look into it for you.

Cage 01-28-2014 04:00 AM

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Guys, what is wrong with the stock brakes that is causing you guys to change, or is just as simple as a performance upgrade?

Strongjeff 01-28-2014 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cage (Post 966694)
Guys, what is wrong with the stock brakes that is causing you guys to change, or is just as simple as a performance upgrade?

Performance upgrade. The factory ones warp far to easily. Or you upgrade just for better stopping power which is a safety upgrade.

Alex47er 01-29-2014 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongjeff (Post 966696)

Performance upgrade. The factory ones warp far to easily. Or you upgrade just for better stopping power which is a safety upgrade.

I agree with Jeff... Lately my stock one take time to brake I do have a heavy foot since as long as I been driving and r1 rotors are my first choice for rotors I can't afford brembos so I try and get the best. I need something I could rely on and trust this is the way to go!

Scottina06 01-29-2014 12:49 AM

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the reason I switched is the excessive brake dust with the oem setup. Were talking 6 and 4 piston 15 and 14" rotors on a $72k jeep. Im gonna buy what I feel is the best when I can.

Strongjeff 01-29-2014 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex47er (Post 967166)

I agree with Jeff... Lately my stock one take time to brake I do have a heavy foot since as long as I been driving and r1 rotors are my first choice for rotors I can't afford brembos so I try and get the best. I need something I could rely on and trust this is the way to go!

I bet the stocker are warpped too aren't they?


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