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kevin.graves35 02-26-2014 01:55 PM

Snow Performance
 
I'm seriously considering purchasing a new Cherokee. I'd like to hear from you guys in regards to it's snow performance. Living in rural New England can mean getting around on untreated roads for a while. I'm considering the Trailhawk as I'd eventually like to hit the trails around here.

Any ideas on top speed in 4 Low? I'm thinking the AWD snow mode won't be able to handle deep snow. Would driving to work in 4 Low be possible?

Any input would be great.

Thanks,

NHPATRIOT 02-26-2014 06:32 PM

Re: Snow Performance
 
I live in NH so your neck of the woods. I have the regular ADI Cherokee w/ V6 and it is a beast/tank in the snow. No need for anything more. If you will do a lot of off roading then a ADII or Trailhawk would be better. IF this is mainly for on road driving in the winter ADI is all you will need.

ottawajeeper 02-27-2014 09:34 AM

I'm up here currently enjoying one of the worst winters in ottawa since the 80's. I have a trailhawk and have left it in auto mode all winter and have yet to have anything close to a problem in deep snow, or on ice or on construction sites. Its a beast and you will have great peace of mind knowing that it will get you through anything you throw at it

ChadRizor 02-28-2014 12:09 AM

I too am very impressed with the capabilities on ice & snow. I've purposely tried to make the jeep loose grip on ice (drifting it on an empty parking lot), and found it rather difficult. I turned the traction control off and a few minutes, I managed to slide around 🙈🙉🙊 ( don't tell the wife, lol) Also I might add that the breaking system is very comparable to high end SUV's on the market today.

Waldo23 03-18-2014 03:59 PM

Re: Snow Performance
 
Live in NW Indiana. Had some decent snow storms and major ice on the roads since I picked up my Cherokee Trailhawk at the end of February. I left it in auto and moved it to snow to see if I noticed any difference. It has handled great on the ice and in the snow in both settings. Had to drive through mounds of snow piled up at the end of my street because I swear it is the last street to be plowed in my town with no problems. Everyone else was complaining about the poor road conditions and how slippery the roads were but I had absolutely no problems in my TH. Couldn't tell the difference between driving on the ice and snow packed roads and the dry roads.

Mich2014GCO 02-07-2015 04:25 PM

Re: Snow Performance
 
Though I have a WK2 and not a cherokee I think the 4WD systems are nearly the same, at least the one I have....

Here's my two cents worth:
I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee Diesel with QuadraDrive2. It's also worth noting I found used 18 inch rims on Craigs list and mounted Goodyear Duratrac's on them.

I have found Snow Mode to be fantastic for control on snow covered roads, NOT in deep snow however unless traction control is turned off. As indicated by Jeep wheel slip is minimized and in SNOW mode this seems to be at all costs, I.e. the vehicle will essentially shut down and not move if slip is detected. That's no problem and awesome once the vehicle's at speed from a control standpoint, it's great. However not so good from a standstill and you need to accelerate from a dead stop, no problem as long as you understand this.

I found a section in a state park here in Michigan what might be the worst snow conditions I've ever driven in. The snow was nearly 2 feet deep with the lowest 6 inches crusted ice. SNOW mode did not work without turning traction control off. I also believe SAND mode worked best for me to gain and maintain forward momentum. All this said the vehicle performed extremely well, I had not removed the front section of my bumper so I was pushing snow and I got through it. I do not believe though this would have been the case without my winter tire setup.

I guess my last comment is the rear ELSD is the closest thing to a manual posi or locker you can find. It engages immediately and at least in the rear is superior to the previous hydrolic approach. Yes, it would be sweet if they would have included a front locker too but they chose not to. Given I have the diesel, using the brakes to transfer torque accross the axle isn't much of a concern but... no doubt to me ideally a front ELSD would be better... (if managed properly).

To me this is all good news, my GC is phenomenal in conditions I see in Northern Michigan and the UP all the time.

GCWIMMER 02-07-2015 05:32 PM

Re: Snow Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mich2014GCO (Post 1145966)
Though I have a WK2 and not a cherokee I think the 4WD systems are nearly the same, at least the one I have....

Here's my two cents worth:
I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee Diesel with QuadraDrive2. It's also worth noting I found used 18 inch rims on Craigs list and mounted Goodyear Duratrac's on them.

I have found Snow Mode to be fantastic for control on snow covered roads, NOT in deep snow however unless traction control is turned off. As indicated by Jeep wheel slip is minimized and in SNOW mode this seems to be at all costs, I.e. the vehicle will essentially shut down and not move if slip is detected. That's no problem and awesome once the vehicle's at speed from a control standpoint, it's great. However not so good from a standstill and you need to accelerate from a dead stop, no problem as long as you understand this.

I found a section in a state park here in Michigan what might be the worst snow conditions I've ever driven in. The snow was nearly 2 feet deep with the lowest 6 inches crusted ice. SNOW mode did not work without turning traction control off. I also believe SAND mode worked best for me to gain and maintain forward momentum. All this said the vehicle performed extremely well, I had not removed the front section of my bumper so I was pushing snow and I got through it. I do not believe though this would have been the case without my winter tire setup.

I guess my last comment is the rear ELSD is the closest thing to a manual posi or locker you can find. It engages immediately and at least in the rear is superior to the previous hydrolic approach. Yes, it would be sweet if they would have included a front locker too but they chose not to. Given I have the diesel, using the brakes to transfer torque accross the axle isn't much of a concern but... no doubt to me ideally a front ELSD would be better... (if managed properly).

To me this is all good news, my GC is phenomenal in conditions I see in Northern Michigan and the UP all the time.

The KL Cherokee Snow mode is different, 60/40 power split and starts in 2nd gear.

Mich2014GCO 02-07-2015 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GCWIMMER (Post 1145981)
The KL Cherokee Snow mode is different, 60/40 power split and starts in 2nd gear.

2nd gear start is the same too. Not sure about torque split but I'm guessing the same.

mults 02-07-2015 08:56 PM

Re: Snow Performance
 
We've had almost three feet of snow in the past two weeks, and the TH has handled all the snow with flying colors. It is the best vehicle I've ever driven in the snow and you almost can't tell that there is snow on the ground.

Tibault 02-09-2015 09:27 AM

Re: Snow Performance
 
I've had two Jeeps in my lifetime, a 1996 Grand Cherokee and my 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk. I got to try out the snow performance this winter, and here in Chicago we can get some snow pretty quick. The performance is top notch - I didn't have any issues getting around even in the unplowed side streets. It felt better to me than the GC I've had, but then again that was a '96.

ragoodsp 02-09-2015 09:57 AM

Re: Snow Performance
 
We are looking at close to 50"s of snow here in seacoast NH in the last three weeks and I must say my TH has been superb! I would not say it is any better or worse in comparison to my other 7 Jeep products, they get the job done period. I do have Bridgestone DM-V1 snow tires all around and that makes a huge difference. I must say I am a Michelin guy but find the DM-V's a better all around tire in snow compared to the Michelin's that I have on my wife's GC. I would get the TH for sure that comes with AD II. Best of luck, Cherokee is a super vehicle.

Robottrainer 02-11-2015 01:42 PM

Re: Snow Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin.graves35 (Post 982816)
I'm seriously considering purchasing a new Cherokee. I'd like to hear from you guys in regards to it's snow performance. Living in rural New England can mean getting around on untreated roads for a while. I'm considering the Trailhawk as I'd eventually like to hit the trails around here.

Any ideas on top speed in 4 Low? I'm thinking the AWD snow mode won't be able to handle deep snow. Would driving to work in 4 Low be possible?

Any input would be great.

Thanks,

I have a 2015 3.2 literTrailhawk with Blizzaks on all four corners. Lest week we had 2 feet of snow on our roadway. I worked from home but the wife had to go in since she's an essential service. I had my doubts. I started in snow mode, backed into the road and move to the stop sign. It went through it but I had to lean on it a bit. At the stop sign, I switched it to 4WD low. Man that thing plowed through the snow like it wasn't there. Never saw more than 1500rpm . The neighbours were wide eyed and slack jawed.. Even more so when I came back and did it again.

By some coincidence, the them from Rocky came on the radio when I was leaving. I was laughing my butt off!


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