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TypeRod 06-07-2014 08:45 PM

Rear passenger door locks and back seat seatbelt buckles
 
Does anyone else find it a bit disconcerting that the rear passenger doors can be opened from the inside ONLY when they are unlocked? At first I thought my child safety locks were screwed up, b/c they were on the "unlock" mark, so I toggled them to test them out, and I was kind of shocked to see the door can't be opened from the inside if the doors are locked. Why couldn't they just make them like the front doors? If there was ever an emergency, God forbid, for anyone one of us, and power was lost in the vehicle and windows are up in the back, it would make for sad story if those doors couldn't be opened in time, I will be buying a pair of Life hammers for sure.

Also, my kids rode with me today, and they had a hard time getting the seatbelt tang into the actual seatbelt buckle, so I had to get out of the car and help them buckle up and I was surprised that there was no give in the actual buckle at all. And what didn't help was that the part of the leather seats near the buckle didn't give enough room to easily push the tang into the buckle They could have at least allowed some angle adjustment. Maybe its safer for them to be so rigid?

farmerbrake 06-07-2014 09:08 PM

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In regards to the rear doors I think most vehicles are like this. Kind of an additional child lock so to speak. Not that I have children (it's a long ways in the future, I'm 18 and single) so I don't know if they would pull on the handle while the vehicle is in motiont, but I'm sure some would.
Do all the doors unlock when you put the jeep in park or turn the engine off and open the front doors?

somedaycts 06-07-2014 11:34 PM

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When you pull the front inside door handle, the lever inside the door latch is manually unlocking the door. Not all automotive manufacturers have this feature for the front doors. As an example, it seems only recently that GM adopted this feature.

The last thing an automotive manufacturer needs is a lawsuit on their hands because some unbuckled kid pulled the door handle and fell out of the car. If you are really concerned about this, teach your kids how to pull up on the chrome plunger at the rear of each door. That plunger allows you to manually unlock the door, allowing you to open it, even if there is no power. Seems pretty easy to teach a kid to do that.

Edit: as a point of clarification, I'm not implying your kids would go unbuckled, but simply playing "Devil's Advocate".

TypeRod 06-08-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by farmerbrake (Post 1034035)
In regards to the rear doors I think most vehicles are like this. Kind of an additional child lock so to speak. Not that I have children (it's a long ways in the future, I'm 18 and single) so I don't know if they would pull on the handle while the vehicle is in motiont, but I'm sure some would.
Do all the doors unlock when you put the jeep in park or turn the engine off and open the front doors?

Very true, I didn't think about that aspect due to my kids knowing better than to do that, lol. Its funny I dreamed about those door locks last night, and during that it occurred to me, duh that's why the door locks are taller and stick out further, so that they can be pulled up due to the safety feature! Then I woke up feeling a bit more relaxed about it, lol! Right now, no they don't unlock if I turn off the car or if I put it in park, I haven't gotten a whole lot of playtime with the settings, but I will look into it further! Thanks

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Originally Posted by somedaycts (Post 1034088)
When you pull the front inside door handle, the lever inside the door latch is manually unlocking the door. Not all automotive manufacturers have this feature for the front doors. As an example, it seems only recently that GM adopted this feature.

The last thing an automotive manufacturer needs is a lawsuit on their hands because some unbuckled kid pulled the door handle and fell out of the car. If you are really concerned about this, teach your kids how to pull up on the chrome plunger at the rear of each door. That plunger allows you to manually unlock the door, allowing you to open it, even if there is no power. Seems pretty easy to teach a kid to do that.

Edit: as a point of clarification, I'm not implying your kids would go unbuckled, but simply playing "Devil's Advocate".

Lol! No worries my friend. I will teach them how to pull up on them in case of an emergency. I just wish there wasn't the "double" child lock feature. Thanks for the suggestion!

grizzy727 06-09-2014 10:16 AM

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Yes my kids are having issues with buckling in the rear too :(

Evgeshais300 06-09-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by grizzy727 (Post 1034536)
Yes my kids are having issues with buckling in the rear too :(

Amazon.com: Car Seat Belt Extender for 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee (rear window seats) - Rigid Style Available in Black, Gray & Beige: Automotive

i'm using 8" with booster seats, works great, kids are happy with ease of use.

TypeRod 06-10-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Evgeshais300 (Post 1034712)

Thanks for the link! I will be buying a pair soon, just need to decide if I want the 8" or 11".

Evgeshais300 06-10-2014 09:11 AM

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here is what 8" looks like next to booster seat:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2bnzi8.jpg

TypeRod 06-12-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evgeshais300 (Post 1035116)
here is what 8" looks like next to booster seat:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2bnzi8.jpg

Thank you friend! I'll be ordering the 8" extenders. Thank you for taking the time to get me pics, much appreciated!

dieseljimmy 06-13-2014 01:55 AM

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Yes, I notice the same issue with the seatbelt in the rear seat but only the seatbelt for the person right behind the driver. I took it to the dealer and showed them how easy the center and the passenger rear seatbelts work. Dealer said there is nothing they can do. I saw the other post about seatbelt extenders and that looks great for smaller kids but what about big kids or adults. The flat tang of the seatbelt which fits into the receiver binds horribly on the edge side of the receiver when inserting it because the receiver is too low and its buried in the seat upholstery. That receiver has a long metal standoff that bolts to the floorpan. I think the angle of it is wrong. It needs to angle higher toward the rear of the jeep. Even a 1/2 inch higher would help to buckle and unbuckle it. Even when you push the button to release it you can feel it bound up on one edge of the receiver. Maybe NHTSA could help????

TypeRod 06-13-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljimmy (Post 1036980)
Yes, I notice the same issue with the seatbelt in the rear seat but only the seatbelt for the person right behind the driver. I took it to the dealer and showed them how easy the center and the passenger rear seatbelts work. Dealer said there is nothing they can do. I saw the other post about seatbelt extenders and that looks great for smaller kids but what about big kids or adults. The flat tang of the seatbelt which fits into the receiver binds horribly on the edge side of the receiver when inserting it because the receiver is too low and its buried in the seat upholstery. That receiver has a long metal standoff that bolts to the floorpan. I think the angle of it is wrong. It needs to angle higher toward the rear of the jeep. Even a 1/2 inch higher would help to buckle and unbuckle it. Even when you push the button to release it you can feel it bound up on one edge of the receiver. Maybe NHTSA could help????

Can owners loosen those standoffs and adjust ourselves? I'll have to take a look myself. But I just went ahead and bought the 3 inch and 8 inch extenders. All of my rear seat belt receivers are like that, I wonder how is it only the rear drivers side in your vehicle is rigid? I'm glad that Im not the only one bothered by this, lol.

dieseljimmy 06-14-2014 12:59 AM

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That metal standoff is robust. I tried to reach under and push it.....No Way. I think the whole seat would have to be removed to access it. By the way what was your build date. Mine was 1-3-14. Thanks


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