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Scottina06 05-30-2009 11:42 PM

DA polishers and buffers
 
I've been getting a lot of questions about a good buffer/polisher and what pads to use. This buffer and starter kit IMO is great for starters

http://www.detailedimage.com/DI-Pack...rter-Kit-P138/

ANY one can use this kit.......you can buy the Meguiers professional line of cutters, polishers at most auto parts stores to use with these pads. They are usually around $10.99 a bottle and will last you for a couple years. My local Oreillys auto parts carries this line for $10.99 a bottle.
The detailedimage.com also carries a full line of cutters, polished, sealants etc. They always have monthly specials and daily specials and ship same day.

Scottina06 06-23-2009 01:01 AM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
bump

DetailedImage.com 06-23-2009 01:19 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
Scott I completely agree the Porter Cable 7424XP is the way to go. Porter Cable just upgraded the 7424 to the new 7424XP. The link you posted I don't think was working so I'm going to put up some other links.

Porter Cable 7424 XP 6.5" Basic Kit
Porter Cable 7424 XP 6.5" Kit
Porter Cable 7424 XP 6.5" Advanced Kit

Here is why I think the buffer is so helpful. If you really want to improve the shine of your paint you really need to polish the surface. Glazes, sealant and waxes can only enhance the way your paint currently looks. However swirls, oxidation are normal problems that every clear coat has. These imperfections cause light to fragment and give you a dull shine. So before you apply any glaze, sealant or wax fix the problems with some polishes. Polishes will help permanently fix the problem and ensure the surface is smooth and glossy again. You can polish by hand but polishes need significantly more heat and pressure to be broken down and worked in to the surface. A random orbital buffer like the Porter Cable 7424XP provides safe levels of heat and pressure that can really work a polish in effectively. It's easy to use for first time detailers and it can't burn your paint like a rotary buffer can.

I typically recommend most detailers on new and old vehicles alike to use a medium and light cutting polish. I apply the medium polish with the orange pad and the light polish with a white pad. My favorite polish combo is the Menzerna PO83 (medium) and the Menzerna PO106FA (light). If you want some less expensive options try the Menzerna Intensive Polish (medium) and Menzerna Final Polish II (light).

If you have any other questions about these buffers, polishes, etc. please let me know. We have all of these products at www.detailedimage.com and we offer 10% off (coupon code 10offJG) on almost all individual items (Sorry buffers and buffer kits are not applicable). Thanks for reading!

Greg @ Detailed Image

Red03SilSS 06-23-2009 02:05 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
Nothing Fancy.

But this is what we use. It does quite a nice job, as ya'll can tell with the tails quality.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...MVC-053S-1.jpg
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http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...MVC-057S-1.jpg

More for a high production shop I assume.

B.P.O.D 06-23-2009 02:06 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
LOL i have the same exact imperial hand glaze at home too!!!! nice!!!!

i also have their machine glaze and machine compound:)

the bottles cost around $23 bucks here... i havent seen the gallons!

Scottina06 06-23-2009 02:08 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
Greg-can you give us thoughts on the other polishers you sell?

B.P.O.D 06-23-2009 02:10 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
yes greg how would you rate the porter cable vs the flex???

Red03SilSS 06-23-2009 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottina06 (Post 20954)
Greg-can you give us thoughts on the other polishers you sell?


Yes. I wouldn't mind getting more info on some. If what we use could be replaced with something better, I would like to know.

Red03SilSS 06-23-2009 02:10 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B.P.O.D (Post 20953)
LOL i have the same exact imperial hand glaze at home too!!!! nice!!!!

i also have their machine glaze and machine compound:)

the bottles cost around $23 bucks here... i havent seen the gallons!


Cheaper for us to buy in bulk since we go through so much of it.

Harrison@Stage6 06-23-2009 06:44 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
I love my Cyclo and stickin' to it! Easy on the hands too. 2 heads are better than 1!!:lol:

Scottina06 06-23-2009 06:58 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
^lol

DetailedImage.com 07-01-2009 08:09 PM

Re: DA polishers and buffers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red03SilSS (Post 20958)
Yes. I wouldn't mind getting more info on some. If what we use could be replaced with something better, I would like to know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red03SilSS (Post 20961)
Cheaper for us to buy in bulk since we go through so much of it.

I'm sorry guys I'm not sure how I missed this post from you. If you have any more specific questions please let me know I'd be happy to answer them. Here is some more basic information that should help you better understand the buffers. Rotary buffers are what some really high end professional detailers and body shops will often use. They offer a ton of cutting power that allows you to remove virtually any surface imperfection and a beautiful deep shine. The problem is these buffers can build up a tremendous amount of heat and potentially burn the clear coat or leave some serious holograms in the paint. If you want results nothing short of 100% perfection then get a rotary buffer and take plenty of time to master it.

For most detailers a rotary buffer is a little overkill and a little buffing power than you probably need. Local stores often have low powered random orbital buffers that just don't have enough cutting power to really be worth the investment in my opinion. My other big problems with them is that they don't often give you the ability to switch off different foam pads. Using various foam pads you can optimize the results of each step in your process. For instance the PC 7424XP can use a 4" or 6" Hook and Loop (aka Velcro) Backing Plate that screws right in. After that you can simply apply your favorite pad with ease like the blue fine finishing pad which is extremely soft and ideal for applying a sealant or wax. Using bonnets can be dangerous because of how thin they are and when dried up product builds up in them. The foam pads are 1.25" thick and again much safer to use.

The improvements of random orbital buffers have really helped weekend detailers get outstanding results without the fear of harming the finish. Random orbital buffers oscillate instead of continuously spinning in one direction like a rotary buffer does. Therefore you can not burn your paint with this buffer. It is also easy to control even at the top speed, which you control. This helps the buffer generate enough power to remove swirls, oxidation, etc. when used with a good pad and polish combination. With a buffer like the PC 7424XP you can remove roughly 75% or more of the swirls. By removing these swirls the surface will now look and feel much smoother. This allows the light to pass more directly through the clear coat and thus reflect back a deeper shine.

After you are done polishing you can use a softer pad like our blue and black pads to apply any liquid glaze, sealant or wax. This saves you plenty of time and energy so detailing can be more fun again. For more information about the buffers and how to use them please check out our Detailing Guide. If you have any other questions please let me know.

Greg @ Detailed Image


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