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Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-29-2012, 06:00 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,370
Posted By echostate
Re: "Moose Test" from consumer reports?

I don't think Consumer Reports falls into this category. Consumer reports relies on its millions of subscribers for revenue. My own impression is that most of their tests and reports on a variety...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-29-2012, 11:11 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,370
Posted By echostate
Re: "Moose Test" from consumer reports?

I heard that Jeep came up with an update quickly and then the Grand Cherokee performed normally when consumer reports tested it again. That's good! But still, the Swedish moose test discovers a...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-28-2012, 09:25 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,370
Posted By echostate
"Moose Test" from consumer reports?

I posted a thread on the moose test performed by a Swedish magazine, and then I found this similar test result from consumer reports, a much more reputable organization. Starting from 2:30 of the...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-24-2012, 10:34 PM
Replies: 221
Views: 23,240
Posted By echostate
Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

Other two cars seems to be driven less aggressively because their ESPs are working ... i.e., your two questions are probably the answer to each other ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-21-2012, 08:12 PM
Replies: 221
Views: 23,240
Posted By echostate
Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

only if it rolls over then you'll listen? omg ...

rolling over or not, the performance Jeep had in this video is definitely the bottom 5% of all modern cars (with ESP equipped), or probably even...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-18-2012, 10:06 PM
Replies: 221
Views: 23,240
Posted By echostate
Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

this is not the previous video ... this is the video they reproduce the problem ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 07-17-2012, 08:35 PM
Replies: 221
Views: 23,240
Posted By echostate
Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYFLb8WMGM

shit ... i don't like this ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 06-06-2012, 03:03 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,298
Posted By echostate
Re: I have sold the Overland

Just curious, what is the big 4*4 you currently keep? :)
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 06-05-2012, 05:47 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 5,791
Posted By echostate
Re: For those who got $6500+ off MSRP

$9500 off is an incredible deal! BTW, what is the mileage on the car when you bought it? This is a super deal even for a demo car ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 06-04-2012, 10:15 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 5,791
Posted By echostate
Re: For those who got $6500+ off MSRP

What rebates are they assuming? 1000 cash + 500 military + ???

It will be really funny if they also assume Loyalty Cash and Conquest Cash together ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 06-04-2012, 01:35 PM
Replies: 184
Views: 19,977
Posted By echostate
Re: 2012 WK2 Prices Paid Master Thread

Any special rebate/discount used? 8k off MSRP is amazing man ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 06-04-2012, 01:33 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 5,791
Posted By echostate
For those who got $6500+ off MSRP

I saw several people (on this or other forums) report on purchasing their wk2 (limited or overland models at 40k-46k MSRP) at a price 6.5k, 7k or even 8k off MSRP. I tried to talk to some of the...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 04-27-2012, 06:14 PM
Replies: 342
Views: 83,951
Posted By echostate
Re: 2013 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

So it's basically the 2014 model year?
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 04-17-2012, 10:34 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,065
Posted By echostate
Re: Did I do OK?

Nice, that's 7000 off MSRP, right? Cool!

Do you mind elaborating a little bit how you got the deal?
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 04-01-2012, 09:33 PM
Replies: 342
Views: 83,951
Posted By echostate
Re: 2013 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

omg no ... any good news on the gas engine model ?

I think GC is selling so well that Chrysler decides there is no need for updating the transmission for GC ...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-31-2012, 02:07 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

I guess they are just too busy making overland models ...
Forum: Engine Performance/Intakes/Exhausts 03-31-2012, 10:23 AM
Replies: 319
Views: 23,950
Posted By echostate
Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

Nice to see some opinion from an owner of both v6 and v8 ... :thumbsup:
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-31-2012, 10:19 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

No lux pkg on the limited trim anymore? Does it mean no power liftgate on the limited trim anymore? shit ...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 07:25 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

It seems more than a few people have big issues with early 2011 models ... really hope we can some jdpower/truedelta reliability results for 2012 models.
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 07:22 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Yep it's funny. Laredo equipped with X pkg and panoramic sunroof can be more expensive than Limited, and Limited equipped Luxury pkg and 20'' wheels can be more expensive than Overland.

I guess...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 07:17 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Reliability is not the biggest concern in my decision, and I'm OK with average reliability in the industry. I guess BMW is about average (or even slightly worse), Mercedes is above average, but many...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 03:03 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Nice choice. I'm actually thinking about a limited model :) Most dealers have tons of laredo and overland but not limited in their inventory.
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 03:01 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Yes, late 2012 model or early 2013 model is something I'm looking at, especially now I know the 8-speed is probably not coming very soon for gas engines.

Some early generations of GC obviously...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 02:56 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

I've paid attention to 2011 new JGC since its launch in 2010. I'm sure I will love every aspect of JGC as long as it does not break down very often. The only thing I'm afraid of is wasting too much...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 02:51 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

This seems to be a lot of problems ... thanks for sharing the info! I think X5 might be much better as 2012/2013 is the end of the current X5 generation, while 2011 is the beginning year of the new...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 09:35 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Thanks. Do you mind elaborating a little bit about the minor issues?
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 09:34 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Mmmm ... this can actually be a bad news (?). The average 94 repair trips per 100 cars per year on truedelta.com is true. So if the air suspension is not the problem, then it might be the overall...
Forum: Trouble Shooting/Problems/Service 03-29-2012, 09:27 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,904
Posted By echostate
How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

Hi guys,

A potential buyer here, really like the looks of new JGC. I just checked truedelta.com. Average 94 repair trips per 100 cars per year, that's not good ... probably one of the worst. But...
Forum: Members Rides-Showoff 03-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 905
Posted By echostate
Re: Overland

Congratulations! Blk/Blk + 20'' wheels look awesome :)
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-22-2012, 07:33 AM
Replies: 342
Views: 83,951
Posted By echostate
Re: 2013 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

dammit ... those who are waiting for the 8-speed tranny will be disappointed ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-19-2012, 04:32 PM
Replies: 184
Views: 19,977
Posted By echostate
Re: 2012 WK2 Prices Paid Master Thread

It seems that truecar/zag no longer works. Now they cannot provide real transaction data/price. Instead, they now only provide a "target price" which is much higher than what they used to provide. ...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-24-2012, 12:49 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,476
Posted By echostate
Re: Selec-Terrain and Quadra-Lift necessary (if not off-road very often)?

So if the car is equipped with Select-Terrain but NOT Q-Lift, then the sport mode will only change transmission shift and traction control, but not the suspension height. Is my understanding...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-13-2012, 01:53 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 12,210
Posted By echostate
Re: Limited vs Overland

I'll go for the limited trim since I don't like wood on the steering wheel.
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-11-2012, 03:18 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,476
Posted By echostate
Re: Selec-Terrain and Quadra-Lift necessary (if not off-road very often)?

Thanks guys! I believe QT-I is far more than sufficient for 99% of my driving scenarios. On the other hand, Select-Terrain and QL do sound very nice (but at a price of course). Tough to decide...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-11-2012, 09:43 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,476
Posted By echostate
Selec-Terrain and Quadra-Lift necessary (if not off-road very often)?

I live in north and east (so snow in winter). Mainly drive in cities and highway. I'm thinking if I should get the Selec-Terrain (i.e., Laredo X or Limited) as well as Quadra-Lift (Overland).
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