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Forum: 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel 3.0 10-26-2013, 02:50 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 diesel production

I have not been on JG for a while but came here to see if anyone had taken delivery of a CRD and what the feedback was, but apparently they're still not on dealer lots / owners' hands.
The 2014 WK2...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 10-26-2013, 02:33 PM
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Views: 5,884
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: What was your 2nd choice?

Mine was an X5 diesel which is what I got back in May once I realized the CRD would be delayed until about now. Just came to check if anyone had taken delivery yet and it seems like the CRD is still...
Forum: Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 06-23-2013, 08:55 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 3,749
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

I bought an X5 diesel a month ago. :giveup:

What gets me is C&D has had JGC CRD articles in the past 2 editions and I am currently watching Motor Week test it.
:wtf:
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 06-04-2013, 11:23 PM
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Views: 803,915
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Came here to check if some of you had ordered your CRD today. Sorry to read it's pushed back again - hopefully it's just one more week - but somewhat distressed to read the posts about the EcoDiesel...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 05-26-2013, 08:10 AM
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Views: 803,915
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Yes on the maintenance plan. It was an exec car built in July and first registered in Sept 2012. A few more days and it would have been a 2013. I get the remainder of all the original 4/50 warranty...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 05-26-2013, 12:10 AM
Replies: 8,279
Views: 803,915
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

It's a 2012 with 11k miles so I paid 50k - not the 73k MSRP. Holy depreciation Batman :eek:

Picked it up this afternoon and the interior is so nice I just might move into it. I drove it in the...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 05-25-2013, 12:49 AM
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Views: 803,915
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Gave up waiting on the CRD. Started looking at others over the past few weeks and picking up a loaded 2012 X5 Diesel (73k sticker - oh my!) tomorrow. Excited but a little sad about CRD launch fail....
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 04-06-2013, 01:34 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

This is about the cherokee, not the Grand Cherokee.
Chrysler messed up big on that thing. First a nasty looking front end and second rebirth of the Cherokee name which brings confusion between both...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 04-05-2013, 01:56 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Bummed for everyone who was hoping to have placed CRD order by now. Jeep is really being a big tease with the launch at NAIS, web site announcements, and even test drives in auto magazines. :mad:...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 04-03-2013, 10:39 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Was at a dealership yesterday to have firsthand look at the 2014's. The sales guy knew about the CRD's and that they were starting production soon, but he did not know when they would be ready to...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-30-2013, 01:45 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,740
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: Agreed to the terms of my new '14 Overland today

1,200 miles and you're selling it cuz of poor gas mileage? How many tank could you have gone though by now, 4 maybe 5? Taking a bath on sale / trade for gas mileage seems like bad personal finance...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-29-2013, 12:13 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Having owned 10 BMW's over the past 16 years and currently having two in the garage - or four if you count our two MINI's as BMW's - this does not surprise me. The current X5 (E70 body) is at end of...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-28-2013, 09:31 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,785
Posted By FredoinSF
Anyone concerned people will confuse their gorgeous WK2 with the 2014 Cherokee?

Jeep is replacing the Liberty with a brand new vehicle and renaming it the Cherokee. While spy shots leaked weeks ago, it was just unveiled at the NY Auto show yesterday.

Based on reading the...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-28-2013, 05:53 PM
Replies: 8,279
Views: 803,915
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Congrats on the Jeep. Which motor did you have in the X5? I was looking at a 2012 CPO X5 35d on Tuesday. Not going to go for that one, but the X5 is starting to look like a strong alternative to...
Forum: Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 03-28-2013, 11:17 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 817
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: What other Diesel does the Jeep drive like?

With the continued CRD delays and cost of the option plus additional mandatory equipment in the US I started looking at certified BMW X5 35d models. Seems you can now get a well equipped CPO BMW with...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-26-2013, 11:57 AM
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Views: 803,915
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

The glass half full way of looking at this is the license plate frame matches the headlight trim :slapfight:
It would not stop me from buying the car if I told them not to slap it on but I'd have...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 03-13-2013, 08:57 PM
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Views: 1,416,312
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Both discussed ad nauseum.
2014 lost the flipper glass
Bottom is gray
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-28-2013, 09:22 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

You will be able to order on CRD in July. Same for other engines.
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-26-2013, 08:14 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

It has been discussed and it depends on what you drive now and whether you want to upgrade or willing to settle for less equipment, how many commas are on your net worth number, how many kids you are...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-23-2013, 10:53 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

^^

Yes it has. Tons of discussions in 11 to 13 models, but the same discussions took place in the WJ forum too. Boils down to this:

The sensible and economical choice is the V6. Relatively...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-23-2013, 10:39 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

^^. Do a search within WK2 forum (not this thread). Debated to death with 11 to 13 models and there is apparently no right answer.
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-16-2013, 03:50 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Exciting to see folks with cars built and soon to be delivered. :thumbsup:

I can't wait for the diesels to start hitting dealer lots. I hope it's as good as everyone who has one says it is. I...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-14-2013, 10:21 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

+ 1 on this. And I'd pickup an extra set of used / take off 18 inchers and put off road tires on. You can get Jeep wheels for almost nothing on Craigslst.
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 02-12-2013, 09:57 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Go to you tube and search for plastidip. Lots of how to's. pretty easy to use and it comes off easily so no permanent harm done. Used it to black out chrome on a MINI.
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-20-2013, 12:20 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

Totally agree. Marketing exercise so they can claim 30MPG and best in class MPG.
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-18-2013, 07:36 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information and Pricing

You know, I've crunched the numbers and while I was excited about the CRD I am really sad to say I am likely not going to go for the Jeep GC.

I was born and raised in France and been around diesel...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-17-2013, 01:28 AM
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Views: 1,416,312
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

No way. That assumes beating the 4x2 highway MPG and using up the entire 24 point something gallon tank. Most people will fill up with 2 to 5 gallons remaining. That means they'll be using 19 to 22...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-17-2013, 01:10 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information

Wow, I drive from Reno to SF this evening and when I get there the CRD motor option is about 2x as much as I thought it would be and the base overland got a significant price bump too. :(

Gotta...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-16-2013, 02:53 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information

Awesome!! Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-16-2013, 02:52 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information

Back in October 2011 when my WJ died and I needed a quick replacement, the local dealer in one of my locations said family plan would be invoice plus 2% plus $250 doc fee (not a typo, they said...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-16-2013, 02:11 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Ordering Information

Anybody know what the Chrysler employee family discount is? The other half's Dad is a retired Chrysler employee so I think we would qualify for the plan. Trouble is the dude is cranky old fart and...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-15-2013, 12:13 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

[QUOTE=DaddyOBest;739753]Milous, Chevy, Scott
Jeep is making a BIG MISTAKE by not offering Saddle or Sepia for the interior of the Overland and Summit!!! These are Signature Jeep Colors!!! Other...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-14-2013, 01:08 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

They totally blocked traffic in SF. I'm surprised there were bikers near Fort Point. Wish I could qualify for that kind of a hookup. :lol:

That being said, the Limited looks nice in that color....
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-14-2013, 10:10 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

All HID with LED come with black plastic filler. The summit adds the washer from that plastic trim. Since overland has those headlights standard it gets the black plastic piece.
If it turns you off...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-14-2013, 10:06 AM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Auto leveling is required with xenon so that's why it's standard on overland since it comes standard with xenon / HID. On BMWs the light adjusts by doing up a little up and down routine when you turn...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-13-2013, 10:19 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-13-2013, 09:03 PM
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Views: 1,416,312
Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

This was clarified around post 1,500 and again at 4,000 or so. :slapfight:

Laredo and limited - gray plastic (same as 2011-13)
Overland and Summit - body color painted moldings
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-13-2013, 07:43 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Just a random thought: I find it ironic that the launch pictures were taken in San Francisco where there has not been a Jeep dealer for years. I think Golden Gate Jeep closed 10 or 12 years ago.
...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-13-2013, 06:10 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

I can't believe I did not see this being shot, right there in my home town and the mountain pix look like Hwy 50 on the way to Tahoe or heading up to Yosemite! Looks like they blocked the streets...
Forum: Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 01-13-2013, 03:02 PM
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Posted By FredoinSF
Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Totally agree. Had an Auburn colored 200 rental earlier in the week. Got to see it under different lights and not a color for me. I just kept thinking somebody smeared $h!t all over the car. :cool:
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