While I'm sure it will be a beast I'm not sure how many people will drop $90k for a juiced up Jeep Grand Cherokee, then again Hellcats have sold very well so maybe there will be a market for them

 

I'd expect significant dealer markups and low allocation per dealer.
As for who would buy it?
Folks who have an SRT, but have gotten a few pay raises and now want something with a bit more zip.

Or idiots like me.

 

I figured it would compete with the Porsche Cayenne Turbo and the Range Rover Sport SVR.


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I figured it would compete with the Porsche Cayenne Turbo and the Range Rover Sport SVR.

The Hellcat might be faster in a straight line.

But the RR Sport SVR and Porsche Cayenne will probably handle turns & curves better.

And both will also have much better Off Road ability then the Hellcat. Not that folks buying an SUV care about stuff like that. :slapfight:

 

With-in weeks of winning the Powerball....I'll get some of them.

 

The obligatory one of each, of course....

 

Starting price will be $79995

 

I have already told the dealer (months ago) I'll buy one as long as the price is "right". I won't pay more for the Jeep than the "others". ??

 

They are stupid to not get it out this year.

 

I'm definitely looking forward to picking one of these up when they come out..just wondering if buying the first gen is going to be a good idea or not?

I'm guessing there will be some issues with it but it would be great to have one of the first batch...for 80-85K you're going to be able to compete and beat vehicles that cost WAYY more...even though its a jeep you'll still have one of the fastest vehicles around....

 

I'm definitely looking forward to picking one of these up when they come out..just wondering if buying the first gen is going to be a good idea or not?

I'm guessing there will be some issues with it but it would be great to have one of the first batch...

Everyone always says this, but first gen issues come up like 5% of the time. What is wrong with the first gen Charger/Challenger Hellcats? Other than Dodge can't build them quick enough to fill orders.

 

I have a feeling it could be faster than either the Challenger or Charger despite the penalty weight simply due to the fact all wheels are driven.

Now, based on current exchange rates, starting price in USD is $70K, which means $100K CAD. It's still a bargain compared to a Porsche Cayenne Turbo, albeit with lower quality.

 

For a starting price of $80k, I'd certainly think hard about it. I'm not ready to give up on quick vehicles, but I just don't fit well in sports/muscle cars. I've been thinking the Grand Cherokee SRT-8 fixes just about every problem I have with my GTO, so why not the Hellcat? 4 doors for the family, trunk space, easier ingress/egress. Anybody want to buy a low mile 2006 GTO?

 

I wonder how they're going to tweak the awd system to handle all the torque. I would think they're going to have to compromise something, hopefully not knocking down torque or pulling timing in certain situations.

 

I can think of two ways of how the drivetrain will be designed in order to cope with the power.

1. Super robust CV joints and transfer case and other components.

2. Some sort of viscous coupling or a slipper-type clutch driving the front wheels.

Maybe a combination of the two. We'll see.

 

Being that I'm going to hit powerball tonight, I might just get one of these in each color offered... just cause! ?

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SRT owners dont.....

 

Does this all mean us owners of regular old SRT's will take a major hit on resale?


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Does this all mean us owners of regular old SRT's will take a major hit on resale?

Not really, the Hellcat version will be priced considerably higher than the 6.4 SRT. While there will be a number of current owners who will trade up, the Hellcat, if tradition follows the Challenger and Charger, will bring in a whole new group of buyers.

This also happened when the WK2 SRT was first released, the majority were new buyers. The price increase over the outgoing WK1 SRT actually helped WK1 values to depreciate at a lesser pace and better hold their value.

 

Hahahaha...everyone said in 2012 that the higher priced wk2 srt would NOT sell at those crazy prices. The 2014 MY alone outsold all 5 years of the wk1 srt8! This thing will sell like hotcakes and it wont just be Jay Leno types. The charger/challenger has never outsold the Jeep SRT and as far as handing...my guess is handling is a wash. Many at the track experience say the jeep handles better and performs better. I guess we'll have to see as all this is speculation.

 

Hahahaha...everyone said in 2012 that the higher priced wk2 srt would NOT sell at those crazy prices.

They'll sell. It just won't be by the boatload. What percentage of people in the market for a SUV are willing to spend almost $100K on one in a troubled economy? Over half of the people in this country can't afford the homes they're presently living in.

Nearly half of all renters can't afford their monthly payments - Dec. 9, 2015

 

Those people arent the market for the trackhawk Jeep obviously. Not sure what that has to do with the topic. Also this will be more limited production than the base SRT.

 

Curious to know if the ZF transmission can handle that much power.


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It will get the ZF 8HP90 not the ZF 8HP70 that the current SRT, 5.7 and Diesel get. 8HP90 and 8HP70 are both manufactured by ZF, the 845RE in the v6 is manufactured by Chrysler.

 

How Many Dodge Challenger Hellcats Have Been Sold?

A total of only 5,000 Dodge Hellcats have been sold, (ordered). While that may seem like a lot, it's a drop in the bucket in the automotive world. I rarely see any SRT Jeeps around here compared to "regular" Grand Cherokees. I have yet to see a Hellcat anywhere. I bought my Grand Cherokee from one of the larger Chrysler Jeep dealers in the Phoenix metro area. At the time they had over 65 Grand Cherokee's in stock. Not one SRT. Now they have a couple, but they're 2015's.

 

A total of only 5,000 Dodge Hellcats have been sold, (ordered)...

As we speak, more than 12,000 Hellcats have been built (Challenger + Charger). Four months into the 2nd model year, demand is still extremely strong.

 

Careful Dcorn, you're feeding a troll...


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Theres a new ZF 8 speed

 

Would that be the ZF that's scheduled for 2018's or 19? I though I read somewhere that JGC will get the same tranny across the board.


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bilt, what's interesting about that article you linked to is that they sold 41xx of the Challenger Hellcats at the time it was written but said that dealers claim to have orders for more than 5000. I seem to remember that Chrysler was taken aback at just how many enthusiasts (what the market is for this kind of thing) really wanted them and underestimated demand. It is, after all, a "limited production edition/trim". There is a certain demographic that will go for these kind of vehicles and that holds true for the JGC. It will be interesting to see what the response is once they are actually available to order and sell. They are not for you and me, but that's ok because there are other JGCs that fill more mainstream needs and desires.

The other thing that occurs to me is that it may not be a good thing to think of the JGC HellCat as an "SUV" in the traditional sense. Yea, it's on that platform and body style, but it's certainly not a mall-crawler, commuting chariot or off-road powerhouse. It's aimed at one thing... something similar to a rocketship, but moving horizontally.

 

I vote for Jim_in_PA to be our official HR/mediator person, just reading what he wrote I can just imagine his calm voice sounded like he's explaining to a 5 year old.
Keep up the good work Jim you have a real gift there bud.

Back on topic.


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I vote for Jim_in_PA to be our official HR/mediator person, just reading what he wrote I can just imagine his calm voice sounded like he's explaining to a 5 year old.

Well, when you earn your living explaining state-of-the-art and bleeding-edge telecom technology to government bureaucrats...

(thanks)

 

Montreal isn't a rich city compared to others, however, I see my daily dose of Range Rovers, M-B G-Wagens, and Cayennes. There is a (small) market for image cars/SUVs over $100,000, that never get used for their intended purpose so I'm not worried about FCA's ability to sell the Hellcat powered Trackhawk.


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good for them

but its a useless pointless feature

the Jeep is still awd with locking rear diff

and that will get it as far as it needs to go off road, that video of the porsche above, a srt could tackle that easily



if i want to go off road ill buy an actual 4X4

if anything id like it even lower ex factory

i have had another softroader with single speed transfer case and less clearance than the srt and it did everything i needed it to, if i was tackling terrain that required lockers and lowrange, i sure as shit wouldnt be taking a 100k car there

 

But the fact it doesn't have air suspension that will allow you to raise the ground clearance is the real killer. If it had just that one feature I'd be seriously considering it for my next car.

To add some numbers:
Off road 2 setting for the Porsche Cayenne Turbo: 10.7"
Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT: 6.8"

That isn't a minor difference. That is a world of difference.

 

Hmmmmm, for the price of the Porche Cayenne Turbo, one could get an Overland and a SRT.

 

Oooh...one for on road and one for off road. That's the ticket!!

 

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You put lips on your SRT??? :lol: