I have had my new overland 2 days now and all I can say is wow the Hemi sure makes this vehicle. After having the V-6 limited for 5 months the Hemi is like a night and day difference. I don't know what I was thinking the first time not going with the 8 it would have saved me some money making the right choice the first time. They did make some improve to the V-6 pickup with the TSB's but it is still no match for the Hemi. This combined with all the problems I had with the first one made up my mind to just make the trade.
jp467
How much of a pain was it to trade for a new vehicle within the same model year? Are you on lease?
I agree that it is like night and day difference between the v6 and hemi. I am glad v6 owners are happy with their choice, but I have the opportunity to drive both on a daily basis. The hemi smokes the v6 performance wise. A second and a half in the quarter might not seem like much but at 90 miles an hour its several car lengths.
You're right. The 1/4 mile isn't the whole story. Here's where I tell you the 2010 Nissan Muran 3.5L does the 1/4 in the same exact time as your 5.7 Hemi. Next time you're stopped at the light next a mom with her Murano packed with screaming brats, remember this.
But you're right, the 1/4 means nothing. Your Hemi should outrun the 3.6 by a bigger margin. The fact that it doesn't is nothing to be ashamed of. You're happy with your vehicle, I'm happy with mine. Fuel mileage and price wasn't the deciding factor at all. I'm not sure how you can actually post that the 3.6 struggles with hills. You do not own one, do you? You're not familiar with a few simple TSBs which made this vehicle even faster than it was.
The twin turbo for the 3.6 will be a game changer. Be patient, again, this is only the first gen. The Hemi has been around for how many decades? I like these conversations even more!:w00t:
But you're right, the 1/4 means nothing. Your Hemi should outrun the 3.6 by a bigger margin. The fact that it doesn't is nothing to be ashamed of. You're happy with your vehicle, I'm happy with mine. Fuel mileage and price wasn't the deciding factor at all. I'm not sure how you can actually post that the 3.6 struggles with hills. You do not own one, do you? You're not familiar with a few simple TSBs which made this vehicle even faster than it was.
The twin turbo for the 3.6 will be a game changer. Be patient, again, this is only the first gen. The Hemi has been around for how many decades? I like these conversations even more!:w00t:
LOL. Agreed. Gotta beware of those sleeper minivans.
But, maybe the 3.6 you drove didn't have the TSB updates. It really has made one heluva difference. Can't wait to see the aftermarket updates for both engines.
But, maybe the 3.6 you drove didn't have the TSB updates. It really has made one heluva difference. Can't wait to see the aftermarket updates for both engines.
I really don't think the V-6 can compare to the Hemi. I had the 3.6 for five months and even though the Tsb's did make it better it was still sluggish off the line and between 30 and 50 it was sluggish. At highway speed it was fine. I found it to be very annoying at times. The numbers probably don't support it but I think the 2010 with the 3.7 feels quicker from a stop. Now that I have had the Hemi for a week I think saying they are anywhere in the same ballpark is ridiclous the Hemi pulls away from a light with no effort at all and from the way it feels would leave the 3.6 far in the dust. I can understand some are probably more than happy with the 6 and that's great, but for me it was not a good choice.
jp467... How bad did they beat you up on the trade-in? That's quite the bold move getting rid of it in five months time. But, as you've posted, you're happy with your new vehicle now, that's all that matters!
I took a hit on the trade, but I did not just trade because of the engine. It was because of all the problems I had with the vehicle. I just felt it would never be the same after all the work that had been done on it. Had I not had any issues I would have just lived with the 3.6 until the next time around.
"Here's where I tell you the 2010 Nissan Muran 3.5L does the 1/4 in the same exact time as your 5.7 Hemi."
Yeah but but that guy drives a piece of shit Nissan, so even though we tie, I still win.
Yeah but but that guy drives a piece of shit Nissan, so even though we tie, I still win.
Not only does the Hemi have more torque but it runs a bigger rear gear. Feels strong, and has great throttle feel.
Six has a smaller rear gear for fuel economy, and takes more pedal to get the same response. Again calibrated for better fuel economy.
No real reason to argue this point. The V-6 is much less expensive to buy and run, but the V-8 has more power. Every customer gets to take his choice. No winners or loosers here, but more power costs more money. Nothing new here.
Six has a smaller rear gear for fuel economy, and takes more pedal to get the same response. Again calibrated for better fuel economy.
No real reason to argue this point. The V-6 is much less expensive to buy and run, but the V-8 has more power. Every customer gets to take his choice. No winners or loosers here, but more power costs more money. Nothing new here.
Is all about smiles per gallon 
not miles per gallon I'm worried about. 6.4L Hemi FTMFW.
Sent from my iPhone 4S
not miles per gallon I'm worried about. 6.4L Hemi FTMFW. Sent from my iPhone 4S
I own a 2012 T&C with the pentastar v6 and 6 true forward gears (not programmed that well) which weigh less than a GC V6 with energy michelin tires with less rolling resistance and the car feels sluggish at times.
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