[bootleg23]

Good day Chaps,

id like to discuss a bit about the 2014 JGC Diesel, but not how awesome the power is or quiet or fuel efficient.

Everyone seems to talk on this forum about lipstick and rouge, not enough technical convo happens, details that in my opinion don't really matter to me.

anyway on to my point, the last jeep that had a diesel had a very respected 3.0 CRD from Merc. my dad currently has this vehicle since new and apart from the swirl motor and leaky intake tube its been perfect, it has the GDE eco tune and runes like a champ.


on to the present day, this is also a 3.0 diesel but not from Merc. but VM motori. digging a bit further into this its half owned by GM and Fiat. now im from European decent and Fiat is considered a KIA or Hyundai in Europe, its not a oouuu woww brand. they are not known for great cars.

the other half is GM, and my personal opinion of gm is welll... if i have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all as my mom used to say.

Sooo, I am planning to purchase a 2014 Diesel limited trim with least amount of options, you may think the QL system is awesome, I see it as a a piece of shit that will break in 6 years and cost me $4000 to fix.

I plan to keep it for 15+ years.

so after all that

what is your view on the VM motor? is it proven, will it become a POS.

discuss

 

[SnoFire]

This has been discussed in many threads..If you get the CRD, you will have to get the Limited with Lux II package.

 

[bootleg23]

yes i know,

i dont think you read the post.

i want to focus on the engine part of the discussing.

 

[SnoFire]

Yes I read your post and Yes there are threads on the CRD...Do some searching.

 

[canis]

I think Sno is referring to you saying you wanted limited "with the least amount of options" and he was just making sure you knew you had to get the Lux II.

The reading up you are sure to do in the diesel section of this site will show you that this very motor has been in use in JGC's for a couple years now overseas to rave reviews. You could also get the 7yr/100,000 mile warranty for some added comfort.

 

[GCOverland]

You could also get the 7yr/100,000 mile warranty for some added comfort.

I thought an extended warranty on the CRD wasn't available?

 

[bill_de]

Since they haven't built any for domestic use, you will do better posting in the export thread. Lots of Aussies are running them.

 

[canis]

I thought an extended warranty on the CRD wasn't available?

Just not the lifetime warranty.

 

[webspoke]

They have been running the motor in overseas markets for 3 years, not many complaints from the boys down under that hang out on this forum. There was a good article in Diesel Performance magazine(and online) of Gale Banks going through this engine, and using it for some off highway military projects vs the duramax's currently in service. The internals and construction appear very solid. We will be at the mercy of the electronic controls applied by jeep/chrysler though.

I think it will be a solid, durable motor, and a good match for the vehicle. I am 90% convinced to get one (without QL) , but may wait for the later builds.

 

[ENFORCER]

As others have mentioned the motor has not been out for more than 2 years in the JGC.
VM Motori is well known for building long life diesel motors, as they build the motors that are fitted to the black taxi's in London. From what I have read about the company, is they know their shit and build good motors. There is no way to tell how long they will last, but I expect it will be similar to the Petrol choices or longer.
I could have chosen any motor, but chose the diesel as it was fast and economical.
I also prefer Turbo motors.

 

[GCOverland]

Just not the lifetime warranty.

Oh, great!:thumbsup:

Thanks - that's good to know. 'Til now, I was under the impression that there was no warranty available that goes beyond the initial 3 years/36,000 miles.

 

[Hammerhead]

Chrysler sold a 5-year 85,000 warranty in 2008 when I bought my CRD. I have small oil leak somewhere (a drop or two will appear if it sits in the garage for the weekend) and that's the only problem I've had after the warranty expired about 35,000 miles ago.

 

[bootleg23]

This may shock some of you but I am a Canadian buying new from the states, therefore I will have NO warranty from the start.

Some of you may say that's dumb and I will prob. agree, however I plan on getting aftermarket warranty anyway for like $3000 for 5 years,

Considering I am saving $15500 on the purchase 3k for warranty is well worth it.

 

[Iceman4123ca]

This may shock some of you but I am a Canadian buying new from the states, therefore I will have NO warranty from the start.

Some of you may say that's dumb and I will prob. agree, however I plan on getting aftermarket warranty anyway for like $3000 for 5 years,

Considering I am saving $15500 on the purchase 3k for warranty is well worth it.

I'm Canadian too but living in the USA. Have you checked how long you need to own the car before importing it. I thought it was 6 months.

 

[bootleg23]

Yes I did my research,

There is no given time frame, you just can't be sold a NEW Chrysler product in the states. I called about 7 dealers they all said the same thing, against the law, some bullshit about anti-competive bill or something like that.

Buying used is no problem. So you can buy a dealer demo with like 250 miles on it, then it's legal.

I have a friend in New Jersey so he'll just buy it and then sell it to me.

Screw you Chrysler Canada.

I will win.

 

[bill_de]

This may shock some of you but I am a Canadian buying new from the states, therefore I will have NO warranty from the start.

Some of you may say that's dumb and I will prob. agree, however I plan on getting aftermarket warranty anyway for like $3000 for 5 years,

Considering I am saving $15500 on the purchase 3k for warranty is well worth it.

What's crazy is how much people were saving, doing the same with Acura MDXs, while the were being built in Canada. Go figure.

 

[rubicontrail.net]

To the original poster, Fiat is also the parent company of Ferrari. I think they know a little bit about building engines.

 

[Iceman4123ca]

yes i know,

i dont think you read the post.

i want to focus on the engine part of the discussing.

Yes that's true you can buy a used vehicle. Just remember to add the cost of converting your speedometer and putting in daylight running lights (if they don't have it). Had a friend who but my bimmer and imported it to Canada. It ended up costing him a few grand but certainly nothing like what you're saving.

 

[bootleg23]

Fiat bought Ferrari years ago.

Tata bought jag and land rover years ago as well

Doesn't mean that all tatas are jags.

Invalid point you have made


Or how about VW buying Bugatti, Bentley, Audi amongst other brands

VW doesn't exactly make the best engines around

 

[FAUEE]

To the original poster, Fiat is also the parent company of Ferrari. I think they know a little bit about building engines.

I've never seen a Ferrari with a diesel though.

IMO, if you're worried about long term reliability, like 10+ years, get the Hemi. It's the only one of these engines that has been around that long, with models still running great. It's also a much simpler engine, so if something does go wrong, it will be cheaper to fix, and since its more common, it will be easier to find a mechanic or parts for it.

If worried about long term reliability, I'd also avoid the 8 speed transmission. It's too new and unproven.