[shellhall5183]

Hi all,
I have on order a JCG Overland with 18" wheels, as you all know the main spare comes in a steel rim as well as a smaller tire. (even though all say full size spare) Any way, what I am looking at doing if anyone has any suggestions. as I don't have a vehicle in town to inspect for ideas until I get mine

I have purchased another genuine 18" wheel (still chasing a TPM to suit car, any help on that would be great to ) when car gets here I am having all 4 wheels and the new wheel fitted with Cooper AT3's. Then I plan to mount one spare in well bay,Hopefully the alloy will fit here and the other one hopefully the steel mount under the vehicle as there seems to be a large area and have found pics of wheels mounted here before. This way as we live remote and travel remote I can carry and have 2 spares at all times.

Have attached a photo of what I found below

Cheers :thumbsup:

 

[bill_de]

A real full sized spare will not allow the panel over the spare to close.


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[shellhall5183]

THanks,

I guess the alloy will go under neath

A real full sized spare will not allow the panel over the spare to close.


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[bill_de]

Is there really enough room underneath, without compromising your ground clearance?


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[shellhall5183]

To be honest I really have no idea, and wont have any idea until I get myine here next year to work on that to see if possible, I am hoping it is. Google images can only supply me limited details lol. to have a car to view and meaure everything and see where to bolt it would be awesome, but not even our dealer has one in stock :-(

Is there really enough room underneath, without compromising your ground clearance?


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[colby1035]

SO what size is the "not full" full size spare?
This seems very misleading and sneaky by Jeep.
Is it the same overall diameter, just narrower?

 

[shellhall5183]

Not only the size but as well as load rating... see below
4 x MAIN
Michelin latitude tour tyres P265/60R18 109T
Max Load 2271P / 1030KG
Speed 190km

1 x SPARE
Kumho Solus KR21 P245/65R18 109T
Max Load 1984P / 900KG
Speed 190km

I suppose they get away with it as it is a full size and not one of those crap space savers???

well worded I guess??

SO what size is the "not full" full size spare?
This seems very misleading and sneaky by Jeep.
Is it the same overall diameter, just narrower?

 

[lstowell]

Try googling online Mopar sensors--or a local tire/wheel store. Swapped to winter wheels a bit ago, and totally seamless, and didn't even complain for the 5 miles or so when the factory sensors and the aftermarket wheels with Mopar sensors were in/on the vehicle.

 

[lstowell]

Not only the size but as well as load rating... see below
4 x MAIN
Michelin latitude tour tyres P265/60R18 109T
Max Load 2271P / 1030KG
Speed 190km

1 x SPARE
Kumho Solus KR21 P245/65R18 109T
Max Load 1984P / 900KG
Speed 190km

I suppose they get away with it as it is a full size and not one of those crap space savers???

well worded I guess??

Those sizes do seem to offer an option for the OP if they can locate good tires where a 235 to 245 width in a 60-70 size are available--as long as the outer diameter matches to avoid drive train strain if the spare ever has to be used. This presumes that the Kumho is a piece of unacceptable garbaj, which it may not be. Surprised it has the same speed rating. I've traded a jeep at 19 years and the cheapo spare was still where it was when new. Luck...

 

[GMWK2]

An ome alloy 18 with a full size tyre, to match the four on the car WILL fit under the rear cargo area floor - just! It depends on the brand of tyre. I have an ome alloy with an ome Kuhmo tyre and the floor just closes with a bit of a push. I think the bridgestones are a bit squarer and fit a bit better.

I'm impressed by that photo - how did they get the GC to hover in the air like that?

 

[bill_de]

An ome alloy 18 with a full size tyre, to match the four on the car WILL fit under the rear cargo area floor - just! It depends on the brand of tyre. I have an ome alloy with an ome Kuhmo tyre and the floor just closes with a bit of a push. I think the bridgestones are a bit squarer and fit a bit better.

I'm impressed by that photo - how did they get the GC to hover in the air like that?

Thanks for the post. I forgot that they don't use the same OEM tyres down under.


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[Kev.]

Hi all,
I have on order a JCG Overland with 18" wheels, as you all know the main spare comes in a steel rim as well as a smaller tire. (even though all say full size spare) Any way, what I am looking at doing if anyone has any suggestions. as I don't have a vehicle in town to inspect for ideas until I get mine

I have purchased another genuine 18" wheel (still chasing a TPM to suit car, any help on that would be great to ) when car gets here I am having all 4 wheels and the new wheel fitted with Cooper AT3's. Then I plan to mount one spare in well bay,Hopefully the alloy will fit here and the other one hopefully the steel mount under the vehicle as there seems to be a large area and have found pics of wheels mounted here before. This way as we live remote and travel remote I can carry and have 2 spares at all times.

Have attached a photo of what I found below

Cheers :thumbsup:

Interesting picture - my MY12 doesn't look anything like that??

Kev.

 

[Roachy]

Thats with all the skid plates and rock rails on

 

[shellhall5183]

Interesting picture - my MY12 doesn't look anything like that??

Kev.

Hi kev

Yes very different, wonder if 14 is different or same? I guess i will have to wait till mine is here to have a good look under it to work that soare out.

Cheers

 

[Benn0]

That looks like the previous model (pre 2010)

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f48/nx-1-joes-overland-upskirt-pics-2190.html

 

[Benn0]

THis one looks more like it, but with dual rear exhaust:

2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Near Hicksville | Long Island Jeep Dealer

Looks like there is something happening behind the rear diff that would prevent a spare going in there. I'm looking at using the steel spare around town, and one on the roof when traveling.

 

[Roachy]

I'm confused. Looks like a WK2 to me - a petrol 6. What do you think is different?

 

[shellhall5183]

I agree, i am totally confused whats what now, need to finda. 2014 jgc and take photos to proof it lol.

 

[Benn0]

I'm confused. Looks like a WK2 to me - a petrol 6. What do you think is different?

Well I think the most obvious is the trail arms on the original pic that shellhall posted, that looks like a WH/WK. The multilink suspension on the rear can be seen in Kev's picture, I think that is what takes up the extra space. The rear axle is different, and the exhaust.

edit: what would be interesting is to compare an ML350 underbody with the wk2....

 

[Stuch]

Hi all,
I have on order a JCG Overland with 18" wheels, as you all know the main spare comes in a steel rim as well as a smaller tire. (even though all say full size spare) Any way, what I am looking at doing if anyone has any suggestions. as I don't have a vehicle in town to inspect for ideas until I get mine

I have purchased another genuine 18" wheel (still chasing a TPM to suit car, any help on that would be great to ) when car gets here I am having all 4 wheels and the new wheel fitted with Cooper AT3's. Then I plan to mount one spare in well bay,Hopefully the alloy will fit here and the other one hopefully the steel mount under the vehicle as there seems to be a large area and have found pics of wheels mounted here before. This way as we live remote and travel remote I can carry and have 2 spares at all times.

Have attached a photo of what I found below

Cheers :thumbsup:

If you use this space for an extra tyre you cannot use it for an extra fuel tank.
I would rather have extra fuel for towing and put the extra tyre on the roof or elsewhere.