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hummmm......

 

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This is a great vehicle. Great transmission mated with a lot of torque with the CRD and, if the demo holds, nice big grippy tires for offroad. I have a 2012 JKU Rubicon that is heavily modded and that I've take over the Rubicon Grail with my daughter.

But I'd buy this vehicle in a heartbeat and take it offroad. Maybe not the Rubicon, but Moab or sandy / muddy roads vice car eating rock trails.

I hate to hear folks assume that it will be watered down to smaller tires and less capability though. The marketing pursuit of the daily driver and soccer mom vehicle can be pitched at the Laredo or non-ORAII Limited. Let the Overland or TrailhawkII be an extreme vehicle like the SRT.

There was little compromise on the race characteristics of the SRT, so why should we assume that this year's Trailhawk has to be as limited as earlier versions?

Lets ask for and hope for the best.

Top notch rockrails (not the wimpy ones on the Rubicon, but the nice ones from MOPAR shown at Moab). Top notch ground clearance. Improved (thicker and sturdier) underarmor. Better approach / departure angles. Towhooks in the rear, not just the front. And a standard factory lift.

Let's get a powerful niche vehicle that appeals to enough offroaders just like the SRT appeals to a small but specific market. Not for everybody, but enough for Jeep to make money and for us to have great fun for our money without tons of aftermarket expenditures.

No compromise!

I'm in a no way an off roading type of guy, but this version of the Trailhawk is way better than the 13 version. The one shown and used a demonstrator at Moab is FULLY what the Trailhawk should be for the guys who love to off-road. Lets hope this stays true to production. Cheers to you Off-roaders.

 

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Thank you for all the kind words regarding my design of a blacked out edition in orange as stated on 11/30/2012 at 9:13 am. I will take most of the credit.

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f73/2014-grand-cherokee-features-and-changes-40291-223.html#post717633

Seriously though, I'm very impressed not only with their consideration of making this vehicle but I truly feel that Jeep does pay attention & does listen to what their passionate & loyal customers have to say. I do think that a version of this would be a HUGE success but I don't think that it'll come out with the 35s. Most likely 33s.

I've been out of the loop for awhile but it's nice to be back.

cashmere will suit you... :w00t:

 

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Well then, I think a nice Hyundai or Scion will suit you.:slapfight:

hahahaha... talk about fuel savings! all I would have to do is buy some extra cheese for the mouse in the engine casing!!!

 

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Haha. I JUST saw a commercial for a cashmere type color Hyundai Santa Fe.

LOL... I saw it online... "Frosted Mocha". Looks like even Hyundai is in on the "saddle color" the Santa Fe sport offers it. Um in fact it's even called "Saddle".

 

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Really? I'm going to have to check it out now. I love the saddle look.

Maybe KIA will be off my list and I'll replace it with a Hyundai.

lol.....

 

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if they don't put the V8 in it then i'll be finding a 2013 black trailhawk. but i'm waiting to see what happens.

It could be months before this thing hits production. 13's are moving fast off of dealer lots.

 

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how does the guy in the have a Job? he didn't explain a damned thing. The guy who was explaining the special editions they build should have just done the whole report himself. that fast lane guy isn't very fast.

 

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Rumor has it it's Chevyboy

LOLOL that is frigg'n hilarious

 

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Now that the diesel is being ordered I'm wondering if/when there will be any talk of special editions (Trailhawk II, Altitude, etc...).

I know Scottina said that there has been talk that they won't have any this year but nothing has been confirmed.

Any thoughts?

TH2 and S-Limited would be two nice special editions. In the land far far away the S-Limited is a CRD so maybe here it will come as am EcoDiesel. As for the more subtle group I hope an "Altitude" type styling package is offered as it was a very cool edition. For the hardcore off-roaders I really wish they would offer the TH2. Not all people like the Wrangler's. If the Grand Cherokee is going to have all the off road capabilities they need to utilize them and have a standard more aggressive then ORA2.

 

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There were no buyers for the vehicle. It would have succeeded MUCH more if it was just an appearance package.

Who's going to pay over $40k for a Laredo with an air suspension that they are never going to use?

As a matter of fact, if that suspension wasn't forced down the throats of Overland and Summit owners (and SOME Limiteds), it probably would have been eliminated by the 2012 model year.

I've always wondered about why they have forced QL on some Limited configurations, made standard on Overland, Summit and Trailhawk. The ride quality is much better with QL, but it seems it should be an "a la carte" option or part of an extra "luxury or off-road package". I wonder if this will cross over into the next generation GC or if they will release a whole new type of suspension. Things that make you go hmmmm.

 

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I like the idea of the GC TH but yeah at mid $40k why not get the GC overland? TH is a niche vehicle and it didn't really have enough attractive appeareance changes. They did a better job of making the new KL Cherokee TH significantly different from the other versions.

They did a better job of making the new KL Cherokee TH significantly different from the other versions.[/QUOTE]

yes thank god they did