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2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk
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There are a lot of considerations, you are correct. I own both a heavily modified 2012 Rubicon JKU and a stock 2013 ORAII Overland with a Hemi. I was confronted with how to take a brand new vehicle over the Rubicon with JeepJamboreeUSA.
What you want ideally is more ground clearance...achieved by getting bigger tires that lift the axles. But then you have to consider the strains on the various components and that is fixed with new steering linkages and lift kits. SOOO, I instead stayed on factory 32 inch tires and took off all the factory skid plates (they are strangely thin and flimsy...only half covers the fuel tank!) and the terrible factory Rubicon rock rails. The replaced rock rails (SRC) I would not recommend as they were crushed on the trail (my third rock rail set from MOPAR was great though and highly recommended...same as pictured on the Trailhawk II). Also replaced front and rear bumpers for better approach / departure angles. Did all this for the price a set of new tires and a lift kit would have set me back...and hated not at least trying the factory Rubicon tires!
There is a point here...
The size of the tires drive weight and offset issues and wheelwell clearance during articulation that do have to be considered and it is rather complicated to do it really right.
BUT that is the beauty of a FACTORY vehicle that comes with 35s. The engineers have considered, designed, and tested a design that will both be safe and not break immediately. The beauty if having the factory do this rather than the trial and error I the aftermarket should be apparent.
To that end, we should demand that the Jeep Factory prototype Trailhawk II seen at Moab enter production without being watered down! Imagine all the headaches we could avoid if Jeep offered the vehicle we need without us resorting to fixing things later in the aftermarket.
Imagine! What if Jeep didn't really stand for Just Empty Every Pocket??
The possibilities are amazing...
What you want ideally is more ground clearance...achieved by getting bigger tires that lift the axles. But then you have to consider the strains on the various components and that is fixed with new steering linkages and lift kits. SOOO, I instead stayed on factory 32 inch tires and took off all the factory skid plates (they are strangely thin and flimsy...only half covers the fuel tank!) and the terrible factory Rubicon rock rails. The replaced rock rails (SRC) I would not recommend as they were crushed on the trail (my third rock rail set from MOPAR was great though and highly recommended...same as pictured on the Trailhawk II). Also replaced front and rear bumpers for better approach / departure angles. Did all this for the price a set of new tires and a lift kit would have set me back...and hated not at least trying the factory Rubicon tires!
There is a point here...
The size of the tires drive weight and offset issues and wheelwell clearance during articulation that do have to be considered and it is rather complicated to do it really right.BUT that is the beauty of a FACTORY vehicle that comes with 35s. The engineers have considered, designed, and tested a design that will both be safe and not break immediately. The beauty if having the factory do this rather than the trial and error I the aftermarket should be apparent.
To that end, we should demand that the Jeep Factory prototype Trailhawk II seen at Moab enter production without being watered down! Imagine all the headaches we could avoid if Jeep offered the vehicle we need without us resorting to fixing things later in the aftermarket.
Imagine! What if Jeep didn't really stand for Just Empty Every Pocket??
The possibilities are amazing...
I'm not following your heavy modifications. You're saying your Rubicon is heavily modified and you're running 32" tires? What else did you do? We'ed all like to see a Trailhawk II available from the factory.There are a lot of considerations, you are correct. I own both a heavily modified 2012 Rubicon JKU and a stock 2013 ORAII Overland with a Hemi. I was confronted with how to take a brand new vehicle over the Rubicon with JeepJamboreeUSA.
What you want ideally is more ground clearance...achieved by getting bigger tires that lift the axles. But then you have to consider the strains on the various components and that is fixed with new steering linkages and lift kits. SOOO, I instead stayed on factory 32 inch tires and took off all the factory skid plates (they are strangely thin and flimsy...only half covers the fuel tank!) and the terrible factory Rubicon rock rails. The replaced rock rails (SRC) I would not recommend as they were crushed on the trail (my third rock rail set from MOPAR was great though and highly recommended...same as pictured on the Trailhawk II). Also replaced front and rear bumpers for better approach / departure angles. Did all this for the price a set of new tires and a lift kit would have set me back...and hated not at least trying the factory Rubicon tires!
There is a point here...
BUT that is the beauty of a FACTORY vehicle that comes with 35s. The engineers have considered, designed, and tested a design that will both be safe and not break immediately. The beauty if having the factory do this rather than the trial and error I the aftermarket should be apparent.
To that end, we should demand that the Jeep Factory prototype Trailhawk II seen at Moab enter production without being watered down! Imagine all the headaches we could avoid if Jeep offered the vehicle we need without us resorting to fixing things later in the aftermarket.
Imagine! What if Jeep didn't really stand for Just Empty Every Pocket??
The possibilities are amazing...
I noticed on the build order thread that Milous put out that there is a Fall placeholder for the Trailhawk II release. For those excited about this prospect, where will you take yours, assuming it stays as capable as the Prototype?
I'm thinking Moab for sure, Ouray, and some of the sand / mud trails here in the East?
I'm so tempted to try the Rubicon (I followed a lifted older Grand last August); just don't know if I can afford the repairs.
Where would YOU go?
I'm thinking Moab for sure, Ouray, and some of the sand / mud trails here in the East?
I'm so tempted to try the Rubicon (I followed a lifted older Grand last August); just don't know if I can afford the repairs.
Where would YOU go?
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