If it costs as much as I think it will I think I will be taking it to work alot!I noticed on the build order thread that Milous put out that there is a Fall placeholder for the Trailhawk II release. For those excited about this prospect, where will you take yours, assuming it stays as capable as the Prototype?
I'm thinking Moab for sure, Ouray, and some of the sand / mud trails here in the East?
I'm so tempted to try the Rubicon (I followed a lifted older Grand last August); just don't know if I can afford the repairs.
Where would YOU go?
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Yah, yah, yah. It's purty and all, but did ya put the darn ELSD back in the front?!From the Jeep Press Release
The recently introduced new 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel V-6 has instantly delighted off-road enthusiasts across North America. With the introduction of the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk Concept, Jeep designers have taken the most awarded SUV ever and created the most extreme Grand Cherokee yet. Powered by the new clean EcoDiesel engine, this Grand Cherokee has mountains of low-end torque to power over any obstacle. From its blood-orange paint, to its massive 35-inch off-road tires, there's no mistaking this Grand Cherokee and its off-road prowess.
The 2014 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk Concept – the third Grand Cherokee created for Easter Jeep since 2011 - features 35-inch Mickey Thompson off-road tires on Wrangler Rubicon 17-inch aluminum wheels, enlarged wheel openings with custom fender flares, custom front and rear skid plates, dual rear tow hooks and modified Mopar rock rails.
Custom design cues include a Grand Cherokee SRT hood, SRT front and rear fascias that have been modified for extra ground clearance, a black front grille, a matte black roof and one-off custom roof rails. The body is finished in a vibrant, non-metallic blood-orange hue that also manages to draw attention to the larger wheel openings and off-road tires.
Mopar slush mats and rear cargo liner enhance Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk Concept's interior.
-john
I believe that the QDII has the ELSD, and it is in the back. Not the same as a "true" locker of a live axle like the Rubicon Wrangler.
If I had to pick, I'd pick a rear locker...did most of the Rubicon Trail with only rear locker. The front locker is great but can limit turning radius on tight trails. The Cherokee (not the Grand) that is coming out advertises "lockers"...wonder if they really are or if they are just limited slip? Since I'm sure they have independent front and rear suspension...
Anyway, I'm with you in hoping for real lockers, but will settle for the ELSD as the Quadra Drive II is THAT good. I've taken my older 2002 Overland places I would never dream of taking my military HMMWV.
Here's to hoping!!!!
If I had to pick, I'd pick a rear locker...did most of the Rubicon Trail with only rear locker. The front locker is great but can limit turning radius on tight trails. The Cherokee (not the Grand) that is coming out advertises "lockers"...wonder if they really are or if they are just limited slip? Since I'm sure they have independent front and rear suspension...
Anyway, I'm with you in hoping for real lockers, but will settle for the ELSD as the Quadra Drive II is THAT good. I've taken my older 2002 Overland places I would never dream of taking my military HMMWV.
Here's to hoping!!!!
WJ QD had LSD both front and rear. WK QDII had ELSD both front and rear. WK2 "QDII" only has ELSD in the rear.
-john
-john
Ouch! Then I hope you are right and we get front and back elec lim slip. Good catch!
I changed my mind and agree that they should keep the 35s, but my hunch is that they will not. I don't know how much would go into changing the body lines/fender flare etc... and how much that would disrupt production. Maybe someone on the inside can give us some more info.
Agreed... I actually just watched another video of it at Moab and am a bit worried at the lack of wheel well clearance as it went over the rocks. The article said it was at max lift (rock level 2) but...seemed like there might be rubbing if it went faster than 2 or 3 mph. The driver was VERY cautious as he drove over what seemed like only moderate terrain.
Hopefully they can give a modest lift with minimal fender interference.
But keep those 35's!!!!
Hopefully they can give a modest lift with minimal fender interference.
But keep those 35's!!!!
It can't be at rock level 2!, it has the steel spring suspension not Air suspensionAgreed... I actually just watched another video of it at Moab and am a bit worried at the lack of wheel well clearance as it went over the rocks. The article said it was at max lift (rock level 2) but...seemed like there might be rubbing if it went faster than 2 or 3 mph. The driver was VERY cautious as he drove over what seemed like only moderate terrain.
Hopefully they can give a modest lift with minimal fender interference.
But keep those 35's!!!!
All I know is that there seemed to be minimal clearance at the wheel well and the driver was VERY tentative. There was something written on one article about it being forced to a high rock level to help with tire clearance.
I hope I'm wrong!!!
I hope I'm wrong!!!
I don't recall seeing/reading that. Can you post confirmation somewhere.It can't be at rock level 2!, it has the steel spring suspension not Air suspension
Glad I bought mine before the new body style came out. Not a fan.
It has quadralift doesent that require air suspension?
Four standout features stand out on the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk II concept, which was revealed at the 2013 Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, Utah. This baby comes with the outstanding 3.0-liter, turbodiesel V6 that makes 420 lbs-feet of torque hooked up to an eight-speed automatic transmission. Mopar tow hooks, rock rails, skid plates and beefy 35-inch Micky Thompsons mounted to Mopar Wrangler wheels complete most of the package. Jeep cut larger wheel openings and lifted the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk II to squeeze the rubber underneath. As cool as they look, they rub a bit when the steering is angled at full tilt.
Watch this video of the mopar guy explaining what they did to make the trailhawk concept, at the 2.42 minute point he says its a steel springJeep Grand Cherokee TrailHawk II Concept Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wNEsm125g
how does the guy in the have a Job? he didn't explain a damned thing. The guy who was explaining the special editions they build should have just done the whole report himself. that fast lane guy isn't very fast.
how does the guy in the have a Job? he didn't explain a damned thing. The guy who was explaining the special editions they build should have just done the whole report himself. that fast lane guy isn't very fast.
Rumor has it it's Chevyboy
I sure hope this model begins the transition out of the chrome stuff.
I sure hope this model begins the transition out of the chrome stuff.
I see Jeep being able to market the GC to the following types of people/preferences. I'm sure I'm going to tick some people off with "stereotypes", but you're only going to get mad b/c it's true.
1. The Yuppyish people who want a luxury SUV that looks like it could go off road but it most certainly never will (Summit)
2. The SRT guys that just want to have the fastest thing on the road without getting a race-car.
3. The blingy people who want street cred- huge rims, loud stereos, lookin' like pimps.
4. Loyal jeep people that might not have a ton of money nor feel the need to spend too much on a nice capable all around SUV.
5. Off road/adventure people (these usually go with the Rubicons/etc...) but now hopefully the 2014 GC will give them this capability combined with some of the higher scale options without all the bling. As they say in the biker world, "Chrome don't get you home".
Jeep is brilliant to be able to market to all types!!!
Don't confuse the "off road" crowd with the "adventure" crowd. Two totally different groups.I see Jeep being able to market the GC to the following types of people/preferences. I'm sure I'm going to tick some people off with "stereotypes", but you're only going to get mad b/c it's true.
1. The Yuppyish people who want a luxury SUV that looks like it could go off road but it most certainly never will (Summit)
2. The SRT guys that just want to have the fastest thing on the road without getting a race-car.
3. The blingy people who want street cred- huge rims, loud stereos, lookin' like pimps.
4. Loyal jeep people that might not have a ton of money nor feel the need to spend too much on a nice capable all around SUV.
5. Off road/adventure people (these usually go with the Rubicons/etc...) but now hopefully the 2014 GC will give them this capability combined with some of the higher scale options without all the bling. As they say in the biker world, "Chrome don't get you home".
Jeep is brilliant to be able to market to all types!!!
I agree with your characterization. I know that I'll get that diesel Trailhawk and look for off-road adventure. As I already have a Rubicon, I guess I fit. After all, something has to tow the Rubi...I see Jeep being able to market the GC to the following types of people/preferences. I'm sure I'm going to tick some people off with "stereotypes", but you're only going to get mad b/c it's true.
1. The Yuppyish people who want a luxury SUV that looks like it could go off road but it most certainly never will (Summit)
2. The SRT guys that just want to have the fastest thing on the road without getting a race-car.
3. The blingy people who want street cred- huge rims, loud stereos, lookin' like pimps.
4. Loyal jeep people that might not have a ton of money nor feel the need to spend too much on a nice capable all around SUV.
5. Off road/adventure people (these usually go with the Rubicons/etc...) but now hopefully the 2014 GC will give them this capability combined with some of the higher scale options without all the bling. As they say in the biker world, "Chrome don't get you home".
Jeep is brilliant to be able to market to all types!!!
I think for any terrain where a long wheelbase works well (climbing the steep inclines of slick rock...which isn't slick...at Moab for example) that doesn't require the live axle wheel articulation of a Rubicon (say the boulders on the little sluice of the Rubicon Trail as compared to the easier Cadillac Hill portion), this will be great.
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