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i have the sunroof rattle on the drivers side. if i push up on the headlining on the side of the glass, it goes away. such a pain to go with my dealer since im usually stranded there (no loaners, and I live in city so hard to make it by the time it closes) so i guess i'll live with it...
Hi topsider,
We certainly understand your hesitation with visiting a dealer. If you end up getting your concern addressed and need further assistance with the process, feel free to private message us!
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I posted these pics in the members rides area but I thought I would put some here for any High Altitude guys who might be following the thread. I bought these rails from Justforjeeps.com. The gray on the rails perfectly matches the accents on the 2018-2019 HA's. They bolted right up to the existing holes.
 

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I feel your pain with the salt. I'm tempted to park my Jeep in a pasture and let the cows lick the salt off of it.
First car wash in spring above 65°F, is getting soaking wet for me day, get under the car with the hose and spray out everything with fresh water and into every opening and all over the vehicle....
It is actually incredible how big of a difference tires can make in the ride comfort.
Yea, I've had cheap high mileage tires, more than tread wears on a tire, the rubber body and stranded belts and bands do also.... .....even a good tire worn tread at average number of miles the difference you feel with a new set is far more than just a new tread on the tire. I can only conclude other parts of the tire wear/fatigue decreasing its ride and handling as well as the tread....
-My suspension is very clunky, sounds like shock mounts are bad but I have not had it checked out yet. Other than that I have had no issues to date with the air suspension.
-I have a weird issue where on startup the whole vehicle will shake and it makes a banging noise. It is very hard to explain, but again have not had the issue checked yet.
-My drivers seat makes a popping noise when my weight shifts in the seat. For example, coming to a stop and then accelerating again.
I just discovered an Upper Control Arm on my WK2 with the bushings destroyed (actually sheered in two) while changing the shocks. So don't rule that out. The upper mounts on the shocks might have torn or gone bad, but that would only be one several possibilities, you really need to inspect and check the whole suspension... ...not sure how the upper shock/strut mounts work on the Air Suspension since it has an airbag over the shock/strut and not a coil spring....

You starting issues sound like bad motor mounts, there are plenty of posts on here about people having bad motor mounts by 60k miles.... ...I have an How To on the How To/DIY/Tips page that I describe how you can check if they are bad....

The later model WK2's also have posts about squeels during start up, that might have something to do with the ESS, but your descriptions doesn't sound like that.... ....and there are also posts about the vehicle lurching like the drivetrain got engine power for a moment on start up, which defies all logic, that might be what you describe....

There are also posts on driver seats about the causes of drive seat squeaks and pops, in my case it was the plastic trim panels attached to the sides of the seat coming loose, just tightening up some screws. I also had the lumbar support break, which only made a nice loud pop when it broke, I was able to to fix it by pulling off the back panel and replacing the broken plastic with some metal pieces from the hardware store with a little tailoring with my dremel tool....
 

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My experience a little different, if I didn't get such a great deal on well equipped WK2, and if I didn't enjoy working on it, I'd probably be sour on the experience...

It needed the front sway bar end links replaced right away, no biggie....
It also needed to fluid in the XFR case to smooth out the wet clutch engagement, again not biggie, I planned on replacing all fluid anyway....
I had bad motor mounts, a little bit of biggie, just a poor choice in types of motor mounts in a vehicle that their other design choices made replacing motor mounts so difficult, so if you make these design choices, that require special lifting tools that also requires pulling the intake manifold, you then choose motor mounts that only last 60k miles?...
The Sirrius/XM died in the OEM Head Unit, I replaced it with an Aftermarket unit.....

I've had to throw a lot of parts at it, mostly brake and cooling system.... ....I thought it was previous owner neglect but it was worse than that, perhaps previous owner ignorant mistreatment...

I've got to wonder if the previous owner put something other than brake fluid in the brake reservoir, it was only after replacing every part in the brakes except the ABS module and hard lines, till I finally got the brakes feeling right... ...I've still yet to replace the reservoir itself, because the brake fluid had become so gunked up, I can not get the gunk off the walls of the reservoir and its clearly contaminating the new brake fluid that is darkening much faster than it should be.... ....this WK2 only had 70k miles on it....

The cooling system, I'm convinced the previous owner or someone she took it to, put aftermarket OAT in the HOAT, it needed a new water pump within 2 months, it required draining and flushing with distilled water for two weeks... ...I had lots of cloudy white stuff in the water, even chunks of soft white residue floating in the old radiator.... ...then I replaced the leaking radiator.... ...everything seems to be working fine with the cooling system now, no signs of leaks, but the hoses don't get as hard as they should when at operating temp, which still makes me think something is not right....

I have a ticking in the passenger side manifold for 10 sec after starting a cold soaked motor, I'm convinced its either cracked or has a broken stud, this I can live with until it gets worse, but I have another difficult job awaiting me in the future....
 

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Update - 96,035 miles. This one might be a little long winded, stick with me.

A few weeks ago I got the dreaded "Service Air Suspension System Immediately" warning. I made an appointment to get it checked out on the day after New Years. They told me that the stored code was for a bad valve on one of the front air struts. Since it wasn't throwing a code currently, they didn't do any repairs. "Sometimes when its cold the valves can stick. If the warning comes back give us a call." were the exact words the service writer said to me. I got in the Jeep to leave and the warning came back on within seconds of starting it. So I walk back in and tell him and he went out and sat in the Jeep for about 10 minutes. While he was in there I could hear the compressor running but nothing was moving. He says they will have to order the parts (doing both struts because the code doesn't tell you which side is bad), should take a day for parts to come. 5 days later I had not heard from them. I call and ask if the parts are in and of course they had been there for days and nobody let me know. Other than that, I had a pretty good experience with this dealer. So, I go in for my appointment to get the valves replaced. It only took them about 2.5 hours to replace them and recharge the system. The service writer drove it himself for a few miles to make sure everything was ok. I leave and get about a mile down the road and the warning comes back. I turn around and they scan it again and now it is saying the valves for the rear air struts need replaced. Of course the parts needed to be ordered so I had to make another appointment to go back. That brings us to today. I go in this morning and they take care of the valve replacement for the rear. He comes to find me and tells me that when they were testing the system after the repairs, it kept blowing the fuse for the compressor. Now, it is time for a compressor replacement. Surprisingly they had that in stock. It took about another 2 hours to do that part and I am happy to say I have not seen the warning again since I left the dealer a few hours ago. Now for the important part. The valve replacements were about $400 for all 4 corners. The compressor was about $2200, for a grand total of $2600 in repairs. Thankfully I am covered by MaxCare and I only had to pay my $100 deductible. My MaxCare plan has paid for itself 140% in one repair. I am sure it is going to pay for itself many times over in the time I will own this Jeep.
 

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-My suspension is very clunky, sounds like shock mounts are bad but I have not had it checked out yet. Other than that I have had no issues to date with the air suspension.
-I have a weird issue where on startup the whole vehicle will shake and it makes a banging noise. It is very hard to explain, but again have not had the issue checked yet.
-My drivers seat makes a popping noise when my weight shifts in the seat. For example, coming to a stop and then accelerating again.
All three are common issues, often with simple (perhaps expensive in one case) fixes, there are multiple threads on each one.

The swaybar endlinks are known to wear out early, causing a clunk noise as the swaybar loads/unloads in different directions..... ....the aftermarket has improved/sturdier end links that are suppose to last longer, look for Moog Problem Solver End Links....

The engine mounts are hydraulic, so they don't last long, seen a lot of threads complaining they are shot at 60k miles.... ....bad motor mounts will make engine starts a very rough and noisy experience.... ...this is the kicker, since the Hemi has a plastic oil pan and intake manifold, changing motor mounts has gone to a cheap, quick and simple job, to a huge hassle using special tools to lift the engine from above after removing the intake manifold, they'll charge you something like $800.... ....hopefully you can get it covered under your extended warranty/service contract.....

The seat noise has multiple sources, but all come down to something working its way loose in the seat.... ...mine it was the plastic trim panels screwed on to the side, once I tightened them up, no more noise... ...you'll see threads about the cause being loose or missing bolts deeper in the seat than mine....
 
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