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This chip shortage is getting ridiculous. I think, overall, the auto industry would be better served by some increased standardization in components. In Formula One they all run the same ECU and the same dashboard yet Haas and Red Bull are nowhere near each other on a racetrack. In industry terms, it should mean that a Bosch OEM equipment on an Jeep air suspension control is interchangeable with a Calsonic Kansei OEM Toyota air suspension controller or Magneti Marelli controller on a Land Rover. Through programming, additional inputs and some other design (e.g. double air tanks) the various manufacturers may achieve different performance. If AMD and Intel can dictate motherboards to a particular specification, such that an AMD 5950x processor can work in a Gigabyte or an Asus X570 mo-bo (with much of the same performance) so can auto manufacturers, in order to increase their supply chain resiliency.

I am tired of just hearing how the Pandemic affected the world and it is responsible for all the supply shortages. What we are witnessing is the mentality that a good, legitimate crisis should never be wasted to further the company's bottom line.

Based on screenshots presented earlier if the air suspension is deleted on an existing order, the customer receives $750 credit. When was the last time anyone tried to replace an airbag suspension on a corner of a WK2? How much was it? Put all those components together, the 4 airbag struts, the controller, the pumps, the tanks...and all you can come up is $750 dollar credit? Come on now. The chip shortage is real. The greed is greater than the ship shortage.

Finally, since this perpetual blame on the Pandemic frustrates me, many of these chips are made in the East, Taiwan, China, Vietnam, South Korea etc. If you take a moment and think about it, something doesn't add up. The only shitty employers you hear about in the pandemic, forcing workers to work with COVID, are these here in the US. The meatpackers, the warehousing, the goods delivery people etc. Sure that happens in China, or Brazil or Poland. But I have not seen anything published in the international media that BHP or Rio Tinto are experiencing such dire staffing shortages in their mining communities to such a scale that they shut down. That's not because people aren't dying of COVID, but because there is enough workforce to replace a dead or sick worker, and many work while sick because the mine is the only source of income.

And then when it comes to the actual manufacturing, in Asia, most of these countries have struct quarantine rules. Not like Chicago "You must quarantine of you come in the City from Kentucky". In US, how many cases of government enforced and supervised quarantine have you heard of? Go to Taiwan or Australia or Singapore, you are escorted off the plane to a hotel, and told to stay there (with police supervision) 2 weeks, every day you get a tray of food. You stay in the damn hotel for two weeks. China closes entire towns or neighborhoods if someone sneezes due to allergies. I am not saying that is democratic, or that I am in agreement - I am saying this is what they do out there to keep COVID-19 out of the community which ultimately translates in factories being able to work at rather high capacity.

Maybe, they could throw in some Bruce Springsteen tickets…
 

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From what I can tell looking at Summit Reserve window stickers, they aren't deleting anything. So I'm sure if the 4xe is available for the 2022 model and you're ordering a Summit Reserve, you'll get the QL.
SRs are still missing the eLSD that seems to have been totally run out of stock. Jeep does appear to be reserving what QL inventory they have for SRs and summits/overlands are taking most of the losses
 

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Looks like they're idling the Jefferson North plant next week because of the chip shortages. So that's going to slow things down somewhat. (Oddly, the article specifically said that production of the 2 row variant was being halted, but I didn't think they were starting production of that until the end of the month at the earliest.)

GM went with kinda a different route with a lot of these chip shortages - they kept producing the vehicles, but just left out the necessary chips. As a result, they kept their factories running, but I'm not sure that really was a great idea. There are thousands of these chipless vehicles around town here. They can't even be driven without having the proper chips plugged in. In general they've been sitting for months or more (for a while they were on one of our campus parking lots, but they were moved off as we moved closer to the start of semester earlier this summer). It'll be interesting to see how they ultimately sell these vehicles, because they'll all be fairly old, they're 2021 models that won't even really hit the market until you'd be expecting 2022 models. I suspect they're going to take a bloodbath on them. GM's probably hoping for a huge hailstorm to wipe them out and collect insurance or something.
 

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The facility formerly called Jefferson North is still making the "WK2" vehicles and folks have still been able to place orders. I could be wrong, but I doubt they have started production of WL-74 yet as that would be mixing "WK2", WD (Durango) and WL-74 on the same line. It's physically possible, but that would be, um...interesting... ;)

Since Jeep doesn't tend to produce JGCs that are not actually ordered, either by an end customer or a dealer, stockpiling like some other manufacturers wouldn't be very effective for them. At least that's been Jeep's thing historically...evey JGC is generally a sold vehicle going somewhere.
 

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The facility formerly called Jefferson North is still making the "WK2" vehicles and folks have still been able to place orders. I could be wrong, but I doubt they have started production of WL-74 yet as that would be mixing "WK2", WD (Durango) and WL-74 on the same line. It's physically possible, but that would be, um...interesting... ;)
They're doing it with the RAM 1500, why not a Jeep o_O
 

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They're doing it with the RAM 1500, why not a Jeep o_O
I'm not saying that that can't do it...it would just be out of character for the JGC.
 

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Mopar Insiders was reporting that WL-74 would start production on 9/27. I was wondering if the shutdown was more about turning over for that production at this point..
Could be, but there are folks reporting that they were still able to place orders for 'WK2" vehicles within the past few days...I kinda hope they are going to start with the WL-74, however!
 

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Could be, but there are folks reporting that they were still able to place orders for 'WK2" vehicles within the past few days...I kinda hope they are going to start with the WL-74, however!
I hope there’s some kind of ceremony for the last WK2 to roll off the Jefferson North assembly line, whenever that might be…
 

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I hope there’s some kind of ceremony for the last WK2 to roll off the Jefferson North assembly line, whenever that might be…
Yea...it was an extra long run for "WK2" and a successful one. That's very worthy of celebration. Those folks cranked out as many as 800 a day plus a couple hundred Durangos. That's a lot of JGC goodness!
 
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Could be, but there are folks reporting that they were still able to place orders for 'WK2" vehicles within the past few days...I kinda hope they are going to start with the WL-74, however!
I thought one of the things the last big upgrade at JNAP was supposed to do was to enable building different models as they came down the same line. Of course if there are not enough chips all bets are off.

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JNAP (or whatever it is called) can do rolling model changes, or at least that's what they were touting the last time I visited.

Arifleet is still showing WK2 production ending sometime in November; I have no inside info about what is actually happening.
 

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I thought one of the things the last big upgrade at JNAP was supposed to do was to enable building different models as they came down the same line. Of course if there are not enough chips all bets are off.

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Yes, according to a fellow who actually works there, they technically can support running both "WK2", WD and WL simultaneously. I can see that being helpful with pre-production and maybe even early production as they finish out existing "WK2" orders, but also think it would be silly to do that for very long. Who knows at this point? It's a mystery... ;)

I gotta imagine parts availability may be entering into things big-time right now, too, given the existing struggles next door with JGC-L production and resulting "feature deletes".
 

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anyone have the paint code for silver zynith? i want to order touch up paint and i cannot find the code. Tried to go through dealer but they were telling me to bring it in and etc etc. I just need to touch a place on the fender that must’ve been hit by a rock.
 

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Local lots are just flooded with these. Even with the chip shortage im seeing $3k-$5k off (LA Market) from dealers now.

Had a feeling the L wouldn't sell. Only way to turn things around is to modify the MF and get a realistic residual to start leasing these things out but when your pushing mid $600's - low $700's a month as they are people will look else where.
 

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Local lots are just flooded with these. Even with the chip shortage im seeing $3k-$5k off (LA Market) from dealers now.

Had a feeling the L wouldn't sell. Only way to turn things around is to modify the MF and get a realistic residual to start leasing these things out but when your pushing mid $600's - low $700's a month as they are people will look else where.
I can imagine that dealers are not willing to make any deals at this point given the supply chain issues. I drove by one of my local dealers and their lot is empty compared to their normal inventory. So I'm sure they are raping anyone that is looking to buy/lease a new vehicle. Mid 600s to low 700s may not be a bad deal based on the trim level.
 

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Local lots are just flooded with these. Even with the chip shortage im seeing $3k-$5k off (LA Market) from dealers now.

Had a feeling the L wouldn't sell. Only way to turn things around is to modify the MF and get a realistic residual to start leasing these things out but when your pushing mid $600's - low $700's a month as they are people will look else where.
I think you might be right. There are 29 WLs in inventory at the two dealers within 25 miles in my area in rural Wisconsin. The Summit Reserve I looked at 3 weeks ago is still for sale. Probably a lot of folks like me are waiting for the two row WL 74 to show up. Al
 

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Question, does anyone here have a list of equipment on the new Jeeps which require chips? I was surprised to learn QL required one. Yesterday my brother told me BMW deleted wireless charging from his special ordered BMW hybrid.
 
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