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Hi folks. I recently bought a cherry summit (2014) in England. I’ve always loved them, but never been able to afford one here (v expensive). When the gearbox fell out of my Skoda, I decided to go for it. There were only 2 for sale in Britain. I bought one with the mother load. Screens in the back, only 50k miles. Love it. After a week of driving I noticed one of the DRLs had gone blue at the top. Apparently a common fault as they overheat. The garage I bought it from has ordered a replacement - and I specified the adaptive one, as standard on that year Summit. I went out in it to check they work, this evening. It was a well lit road, but I did go around a couple of roundabouts. I couldn’t tell.🤷🏻‍♂️ On my old Skoda, which had them, when you started up, the lights levelled up, then out, then back in again. Very obvious. Is the Summit supposed to do that on start up in the dark? If so, mine aren’t working. They’re ‘checked’ to ‘on’ in uconnect. Can anyone help? I’m now worried that I’ve bought a car which has had adaptive lights replaced with non-adaptive lights - and I’m used to having them. Thanks all. John.😊🤞
 

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Hi folks. I recently bought a cherry summit (2014) in England. I’ve always loved them, but never been able to afford one here (v expensive). When the gearbox fell out of my Skoda, I decided to go for it. There were only 2 for sale in Britain. I bought one with the mother load. Screens in the back, only 50k miles. Love it. After a week of driving I noticed one of the DRLs had gone blue at the top. Apparently a common fault as they overheat. The garage I bought it from has ordered a replacement - and I specified the adaptive one, as standard on that year Summit. I went out in it to check they work, this evening. It was a well lit road, but I did go around a couple of roundabouts. I couldn’t tell.🤷🏻‍♂️ On my old Skoda, which had them, when you started up, the lights levelled up, then out, then back in again. Very obvious. Is the Summit supposed to do that on start up in the dark? If so, mine aren’t working. They’re ‘checked’ to ‘on’ in uconnect. Can anyone help? I’m now worried that I’ve bought a car which has had adaptive lights replaced with non-adaptive lights - and I’m used to having them. Thanks all. John.😊🤞
As I recall on mine they adaptive headlights do roll the lens around when it fires up, at least up and down movement, not sure about side to side on start up. But going around a sharp corner at night at slow speed you can clearly see the light beam of the inside of the turn headlight swivel farther to the inside.
 

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As I recall on mine they adaptive headlights do roll the lens around when it fires up, at least up and down movement, not sure about side to side on start up. But going around a sharp corner at night at slow speed you can clearly see the light beam of the inside of the turn headlight swivel farther to the inside.
Thanks for that. I was checking mine on the garage door last night. They only went up and down. The Skoda ones clearly went from side to side too, when they fired up. On the owner’s handbook, it says they make a series of short movements when activated, but doesn’t say whether that’s when the car is moving or not. Just worried that a) being an 8 Yr old car, someone has replaced them with cheaper non-adaptive lights and b) if that’s the case, the replacement one coming from the garage is adaptive, so that will make things more obvious. Thanks though. Appreciate the response. Happy driving!😊
 

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Hi folks. I recently bought a cherry summit (2014) in England. I’ve always loved them, but never been able to afford one here (v expensive). When the gearbox fell out of my Skoda, I decided to go for it. There were only 2 for sale in Britain. I bought one with the mother load. Screens in the back, only 50k miles. Love it. After a week of driving I noticed one of the DRLs had gone blue at the top. Apparently a common fault as they overheat. The garage I bought it from has ordered a replacement - and I specified the adaptive one, as standard on that year Summit. I went out in it to check they work, this evening. It was a well lit road, but I did go around a couple of roundabouts. I couldn’t tell.🤷🏻‍♂️ On my old Skoda, which had them, when you started up, the lights levelled up, then out, then back in again. Very obvious. Is the Summit supposed to do that on start up in the dark? If so, mine aren’t working. They’re ‘checked’ to ‘on’ in uconnect. Can anyone help? I’m now worried that I’ve bought a car which has had adaptive lights replaced with non-adaptive lights - and I’m used to having them. Thanks all. John.😊🤞
2015 was the last year for the adaptive headlights. It's likely that those headlights have been discontinued for some time and may be extremely difficult to locate. I've not ridden in a 2014-15 Summit or SRT, so don't know how noticeable during cornering they are, but the ones in my previous BMW's were very noticeable when cornering.
 

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I will check mine at some point but seem to remember they only go up & down at start up but could be wrong. They 100% noticeable they go left & right when manoeuvring but think it’s only above 20 mph iirc. The 2014 will 100% have afs in the U.K. & if you look at the label on the top of the light, it will have AFS on it. If either the module or light has crapped itself then a warning will come up on the cluster. If they have been swapped for non AFS then someone would have had to have changed to coding to get rid of the fault. I have a spare set of immaculate summit lights with perfect drl ribbons if you get stuck. Also which part of the U.K. are you in as I can check whether the feature has been disabled or not if local ish?
 

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Also the blue discolouring is down to moisture getting into the light & causing the drl to fail. I’ve personally not heard of any overheating issues. With the moisture, it’s generally about 1 inch across the top that goes
 

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I will check mine at some point but seem to remember they only go up & down at start up but could be wrong. They 100% noticeable they go left & right when manoeuvring but think it’s only above 20 mph iirc. The 2014 will 100% have afs in the U.K. & if you look at the label on the top of the light, it will have AFS on it. If either the module or light has crapped itself then a warning will come up on the cluster. If they have been swapped for non AFS then someone would have had to have changed to coding to get rid of the fault. I have a spare set of immaculate summit lights with perfect drl ribbons if you get stuck. Also which part of the U.K. are you in as I can check whether the feature has been disabled or not if local ish?
Oh you star! Thank you! I’m in a place called Watford, but the car was bought from a dealership in Sheffield. It’s a stunning car. I love it. Thank you very much indeed.
 

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Ah ok, not exactly local (although by American standards I’m sure it’s perceived as a short trip lol). You’re about 120 miles away as I’m in Norfolk. In theory, if you still have the option in Uconnect to enable & disable then I would assume it’s there. Take it out for a drive at night just make sure you get above 20. Large car park will be your friend for testing. If you’re still unsure then either have a trip & I will test or I can send you some links for software & cables to test yourself (will be about £100-120 but mean you can do most coding & diagnosis yourself rather than going to dealer). Last resort I have some light. Only swapped mine as wanted black housing
 

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Ah ok, not exactly local (although by American standards I’m sure it’s perceived as a short trip lol). You’re about 120 miles away as I’m in Norfolk. In theory, if you still have the option in Uconnect to enable & disable then I would assume it’s there. Take it out for a drive at night just make sure you get above 20. Large car park will be your friend for testing. If you’re still unsure then either have a trip & I will test or I can send you some links for software & cables to test yourself (will be about £100-120 but mean you can do most coding & diagnosis yourself rather than going to dealer). Last resort I have some light. Only swapped mine as wanted black housing
Thank you mate. I really appreciate that - and yes lol! If you lived in Jon o groats and I lived at Lands End, it would be a lot easier than some of our friends on here. USA is BIG! Maybe I’m just suffering from a Skoda ‘playing a tune’ on start up. It’s a 2014 Summit on a 64 plate, and the uconnect software certainly says it’s working. Maybe I’m being paranoid. It’s only because one of the DRLs went blue on the top, so the garage I bought it from has ordered another light for me. Is there any way of stopping that from happening, do you know? Seems to be a common overheating issue.🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Ok cool. Well that’s certainly taking uk living to extremes lol

I will double check mine but won’t be til Wednesday as it’s about half way through being fully detailed. The valeter has given strict instructions not to take it out of my garage until he’s finished so will be in my older Grand (have a Startech / brabus Hemi older shape for titting about in & horses etc) or one of the other cars until it’s done

fair play to the garage! I assume they are sourcing used as they are £1800 each new!

no idea re stopping it failing. Know plenty of people with wk2 and the only ones where they have started to turn blue have all had moisture in the lens. If you start to see that then do something about it, otherwise I shouldn’t worry
 

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Ok cool. Well that’s certainly taking uk living to extremes lol

I will double check mine but won’t be til Wednesday as it’s about half way through being fully detailed. The valeter has given strict instructions not to take it out of my garage until he’s finished so will be in my older Grand (have a Startech / brabus Hemi older shape for titting about in & horses etc) or one of the other cars until it’s done

fair play to the garage! I assume they are sourcing used as they are £1800 each new!

no idea re stopping it failing. Know plenty of people with wk2 and the only ones where they have started to turn blue have all had moisture in the lens. If you start to see that then do something about it, otherwise I shouldn’t worry
 

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Wow! You have 2?! Lovely! Can’t tell you how happy I am to have one. I plan to have it remapped. 247-292 and big gains of torque - and economy apparently. Unless you’ve heard it’s a bad idea…? I had my Chrysler 300c remapped and it was perfect. Only got rid of that cos we got a dog. Horses? Lovely! Norfolk too. What a place. Send pics of the beast once done please! Have to admit, my babe in that lovely cherry red looks fab. Love how it changes colour in different lights. Got the satnav updated for £65 via eBay, as the local Jeep dealer wanted £350 for 2019 maps.🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ve got Europe including east AND Russia (won’t be popping there lol!) 2021 for £65, and it works beautifully. Bargains out there, but not the lights sadly. Yeah, great garage. They’ve won national awards and I’m not surprised. I had a big rac inspection, and they fixed everything he said, other than the heating element on the rear windscreen. I have to sort that out before winter, as only half works. They were quoted £1300 for a new one, plus tinting! Couldn’t blame them for deciding not to go for that, I guess.🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m gonna ask my local garage if they know an auto electrician who can fix it. Otherwise, there are kits out there. Also, one of my tpms is on the blink. Intermittent fault that suddenly tells me I have a flat tyre. Corrects itself after a while, but it needs sorting. Thanks pal. I bet the older one is a beast!😊👍
 

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Sounds like a decent garage so hopefully years of happy motoring for you. One I bought mine from were total bell3nds. Came with rac inspection & bought 3 year warranty but clearly they hadn’t done any work to it. Asked countless times for the pre delivery inspection & to this day I’ve not seen it. Bought unseen & had it delivered to me. Upon driving literally a mile up the road I could tell it had issues. Ended up needing new wheel bearing, half shaft, transfer case module, countless sensors, a wing mirror (led failed) tailgate ram, list goes on & ended up over 10k of work. They did pay for it all but was proper peed that I waited 2 weeks for a car they could have been sorting. Luckily I kept the old one otherwise I wouldn’t have had a suitable vehicle for the dogs.
Yup rural naaaaarfolk is ideal for these. If you want to be put off a map, search for eco Diesel engine failures and it should be sufficient to put you off! Blue spark is the only chip worth while in the U.K. or if you want to go for something more specialist, get a GDE tune which basically anyone on this forum would recommend BUT the engine isn’t great at handling the additional strain

Rear screen should be pre tinted. I know as mines been replaced already as the idiot dealer put their sticker over the lines & it screwed the elements up. I imagine they are trying to fit an aftermarket screen. If ordered by vin number, it will be tinted

tpms batteries fail on these around 10-12 years normally in U.K. so a bit premature maybe but not unreasonable

yeah I still prefer the old one for off road. The air suspension on this is a bit crashy at its highest & the 4wd seems delayed in responding. The older one (2005, v8), just seemed so sure footed in every scenario. Ok it’s lifted & got big tyres but the electronic gizmos seem to be a step back for proper use. It’s far better for daily as not powering all wheels unnecessarily & the interior is a far nicer place to be though. Nice getting 19.8mpg rather than 6.7mpg though with cost of fuel at the minute lol

If you want a newer nav, get yourself a Panasonic one from a 2018 (specifically, 2019 won’t boot correctly) as they have carplay & direct fit to anything other than 2014 (which needs an extra harness)
 

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Sounds like a decent garage so hopefully years of happy motoring for you. One I bought mine from were total bell3nds. Came with rac inspection & bought 3 year warranty but clearly they hadn’t done any work to it. Asked countless times for the pre delivery inspection & to this day I’ve not seen it. Bought unseen & had it delivered to me. Upon driving literally a mile up the road I could tell it had issues. Ended up needing new wheel bearing, half shaft, transfer case module, countless sensors, a wing mirror (led failed) tailgate ram, list goes on & ended up over 10k of work. They did pay for it all but was proper peed that I waited 2 weeks for a car they could have been sorting. Luckily I kept the old one otherwise I wouldn’t have had a suitable vehicle for the dogs.
Yup rural naaaaarfolk is ideal for these. If you want to be put off a map, search for eco Diesel engine failures and it should be sufficient to put you off! Blue spark is the only chip worth while in the U.K. or if you want to go for something more specialist, get a GDE tune which basically anyone on this forum would recommend BUT the engine isn’t great at handling the additional strain

Rear screen should be pre tinted. I know as mines been replaced already as the idiot dealer put their sticker over the lines & it screwed the elements up. I imagine they are trying to fit an aftermarket screen. If ordered by vin number, it will be tinted

tpms batteries fail on these around 10-12 years normally in U.K. so a bit premature maybe but not unreasonable

yeah I still prefer the old one for off road. The air suspension on this is a bit crashy at its highest & the 4wd seems delayed in responding. The older one (2005, v8), just seemed so sure footed in every scenario. Ok it’s lifted & got big tyres but the electronic gizmos seem to be a step back for proper use. It’s far better for daily as not powering all wheels unnecessarily & the interior is a far nicer place to be though. Nice getting 19.8mpg rather than 6.7mpg though with cost of fuel at the minute lol

If you want a newer nav, get yourself a Panasonic one from a 2018 (specifically, 2019 won’t boot correctly) as they have carplay & direct fit to anything other than 2014 (which needs an extra harness)
Blimey you had some shit! So so sorry. So far mine has just been the light and they tpms. How much did your rear screen cost? Depending on the cost, I’d think about that - or - I have a go myself with a kit… I really like the older model. There are still plenty on the road, which is a good sign. Having said that, I love the fact that our model is as rare as hen’s teeth. Sooooo many Rangeys out there. On motors.co.uk there were about 2,000 of them, and only about 100 grand Cherokees - only 3 or 4 Summits.
There is a place nearby that does quantum tuning maps. I’ve had 2 cars done by them and they’ve been fine. Supposed to be bespoke, although if anyone on here has had a bad experience, I’d be grateful to know 😬
Thanks mate. You’ve been amazing! Let me know how those adaptives behave when you fire them up. Would love to see the new kit, although I suspect my wife would have heart failure if I started to ‘pimp’ it up lol!🤪
 

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Honestly don’t know as made the dealer paid for it. I will try to find the cost when sober

i really wouldn’t let a place that offers tuning for all cars touch the Eco diesel to be honest. It’s up to you but the exhaust gas temp tends to run higher than it should on maps by generic tune companies

Yep definitely rarer & generally more reliable too! Older ones tend to suffer with rust but with the salt we use on the roads combined with being a 4x4, it’s to be expected. If you intend on keeping yours long term, I would maybe look into getting in waxoyl or undersealed at about 7-8 years old to ensure the rust doesn’t get to it. £200 well spent imho

ha ha, I do as I please with my vehicles & never one for leaving it stock. Even my work toyota has full irmscher kit & interior lol. Yeah will upload pics once it’s dug out. She’s got a bog standard beetle & couldn’t care less. Takes the Hemi to work in bad weather & uses the Audi on sunny days but won’t let her near anything else (& the Audi is begrudgingly tbh as she’s already screwed one of the wheels twice).

i have a rather extensive spares selection if you need anything in the future. Whole interior (I wanted to add rear screens), bumpers, side skirts, exhaust, brakes (calipers, discs etc etc), list goes on!

na it’s fine, I know these inside out due to the amount of messing about I do with them. Got 2 grands, had 2 older ones plus a seriously modified wrangler in the past too so would be a bit of a c0ck if I didn’t pass on what I had learned. Still know far more about the earlier shape though (wh/wk1) but it’s because I’ve had that for over a decade now. Just hit 45k
 

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I THINK the tinted glass is P/N

68158151AG

Previous p/n were
68158151AF, 68211614AA

these are American spec & for srt but the srt glass is the same as summit & the USDM is same as EUDM for that piece. The only glass variations to my knowledge is r/n/s for dab antenna between countries & then double glazing so the above numbers should give you a price

part is between 500-700 usd but that has zero relevance to U.K. prices. Just ordered screw covers from America as 30 bucks compared to £70 each over here
 

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I’m really grateful for all this mate. Yeah I was told the rear screen was only from Jeep and didn’t come tinted. I’ll have a look, as I think it might be a nightmare during the winter.
See your point about the map, and I run it in eco mode most of the time. However, I’d love a we bit more power and economy, and they were great with the Skoda and old Rangey I had. I believe Quantum takes into account the behaviour of the individual engine, but I need to speak to them.
Im getting late 20s/early 30s around town. 40isj on the motorway. My wife has a stunning mk 2 TT roadster, which she’s sadly recently pranged. I see a big bill.😢
 
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