[mjw930]

Looking for some input. I need 4 tires, I don't need all season and I don't need runflats.

Discount Tire is running a sale, $75 - $100 off 4 tires and some manufacturers are also doing rebates.

I've narrowed it down to 3 contenders

It's between the Toyo STII, General UHP or Hankook RH06. I can get either one for about $670 installed after rebates.

I'm leaning towards the Generals based on their being basically a Continental UHP carcus with US specific tread and compound.

Not interesting in the Yokohama's or $475/copy Pirelli's and was considering the KDW2's but they are on national backorder.

I'm looking for someone with experience with 2 or maybe even all 3 of these tires for some insight. Reading online reviews is rather fruitless when one says best tire and the one directly below it says they are crap.....

 

[Scottina06]

I had the ST2's on a durango and I didnt like them at all. Wet grip was terrible. If a 300hp v6 will spin the tires...your SRT will light them up. Not too good in the rail, puddles either.

 

[jaxkxx]

Agree with Scott on Toyo"s. Had them on my Jeep for one day and took them back for refund. Went back with OEM Scorpions Verdes and the ride between them two is like night and day. Check out ebay, sometimes you can find great deal on them.

 

[EviL]

i was hoping that michelean wud have a set for that size.
but no.. thing so far.

recommending stocks

 

[mjw930]

i was hoping that michelean wud have a set for that size.
but no.. thing so far.

recommending stocks

No, the selection of tires in our size is dismal at best. I was hoping something like the continental DWS but since they own General and General has the UHP they aren't making it in our size. I did read from someone who works at Conti that the UHP and the Extreme share the same internal design but the tread and compound is different to account for American roads and tastes.

Michelin doesn't really make a performance tire in the SUV sizes aside from the Diamaris which is not really all that great a tire. Only the Asian makers seem to cater to SUV / Crossovers and probably only because the the lucrative +1 and +2 markets. Their tires tend to be more about look than substance with the tread design being the major selling point.

 

[EviL]

No, the selection of tires in our size is dismal at best. I was hoping something like the continental DWS but since they own General and General has the UHP they aren't making it in our size. I did read from someone who works at Conti that the UHP and the Extreme share the same internal design but the tread and compound is different to account for American roads and tastes.

Michelin doesn't really make a performance tire in the SUV sizes aside from the Diamaris which is not really all that great a tire. Only the Asian makers seem to cater to SUV / Crossovers and probably only because the the lucrative +1 and +2 markets. Their tires tend to be more about look than substance with the tread design being the major selling point.

then in this case, u should consider changing the wheels on ur car to find a good tire set

 

[xJoshxx]

No, the selection of tires in our size is dismal at best. I was hoping something like the continental DWS but since they own General and General has the UHP they aren't making it in our size. I did read from someone who works at Conti that the UHP and the Extreme share the same internal design but the tread and compound is different to account for American roads and tastes.

Michelin doesn't really make a performance tire in the SUV sizes aside from the Diamaris which is not really all that great a tire. Only the Asian makers seem to cater to SUV / Crossovers and probably only because the the lucrative +1 and +2 markets. Their tires tend to be more about look than substance with the tread design being the major selling point.

they do have the DWS in a 295\40\20

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...wall=Blackwall&partnum=94WR0ECDWSXL&tab=Sizes

roughly .5" short sidewall.

Which even I am highly considering due the costs of OEM's

 

[barish93]

I'm actually running the Conti DWS's in that's size and they are great. I even used them during an autocross and I was amazed with how much grip they had to offer.

 

[xJoshxx]

I'm actually running the Conti DWS's in that's size and they are great. I even used them during an autocross and I was amazed with how much grip they had to offer.

How many miles do you have on them? I'm trying to escape not buying a winter set of rims and tires.

 

[barish93]

About 4000

 

[mjw930]

then in this case, u should consider changing the wheels on ur car to find a good tire set

You lost me here, are you suggesting dropping another 3 grand on 22's so I can buy $200 tires for them LOL.

I love the wheels on the SRT, they aren't the problem.

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they do have the DWS in a 295\40\20

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...wall=Blackwall&partnum=94WR0ECDWSXL&tab=Sizes

roughly .5" short sidewall.

Which even I am highly considering due the costs of OEM's

I thought about it but with the heavy towing I do I don't want to give up any load rating and the higher revs/mile sure won't help the dismal MPG.

I ordered the Generals today, Discount Tire had a $75 rebate on top of the $70 General rebate so OTD for $680 mounted, balanced and tax. thats a whole lot better than $2100 for the Pirelli's. They should be in late next week (the holiday messes everything up).

 

[Radknight]

I suppose a difference of 0.5 in sidewall isn't that big of a deal plus you might get a stiffer feel but not as stiff as the run-flats and much more tire options. What difference has it made on your speedometer and/or has it been calibrated to the new tires?

Heard lots of good things about the Yokohama Parada-X. They make it in the 295/45/20 size non-Run Flat in 'V' rating not 'Y'. Perhaps not necessary unless you are tracking it, heavily modifying it, or cruising the Autobahn.

 

[mjw930]

Replaced rock hard, worn out 4 season Pirelli's (at 14,500 miles!) with General Grabber UHP's. All but one took no more than 1 oz of weight, the lone outlier took 2 oz, I can live with that.

The ride is a marked improvement. It's not soft by any stretch of the imagination but it took the harshness away. I can now feel the difference between Auto, Sport and Track where before sport was barely different than Auto (track is always noticeable). Slight road noise over some types of pavement that the Pirelli's didn't have but it's low pitched and blends in with the exhaust rumble. All the tram-lining and dartiness I noticed as the Pirelli's wore is gone!

Handling: The steering response is slightly less instant but again, not sloppy like the Parada's were on my Overland. Initial turn is is very linear, there is no feeling like you are loading up the sidewall that I was fearing again, after my experience with the Parada's. Grip is very linear up to the limit. Of course as I expected, with full tread vs. the 20% left on the Pirelli's the absolute cornering force is down a bit, probably about .05G but I didn't take my G-Tech so I don't know the absolute numbers.

All in all I'm pretty happy with them and at $680 OTD with installation and all the rebates I thrilled.

 

[OMYHEMI]

Wow, what a difference in the ride! I just replaced the OEM 4 season Pirelli's (@24,500 mi) with the Toyo S/T. Instant difference! Harshness went away as is the terrible wandering it got to be at the bottom end of the tread. I agree with you mjw930. I'll not go back to run-flats!
I went with the Toyo S/T due to my long experience with them on other vehicles. I hear not good things about the new tread design of the ST II.