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Transmission may finally be fixed, new firmware flashed again, no news on the other faults and although they had it for 3 days they forgot to do the oil pressure sender so It's going back again....
 

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Transmission may finally be fixed, new firmware flashed again, no news on the other faults and although they had it for 3 days they forgot to do the oil pressure sender so It's going back again....
Took the car back for the pressure sensor replacement and the thread is stripped on the oil cooler so it's on back order from the USA... car is still running but yet another problem for me.

Good news is the tranny now behaves mostly as expected with the odd bump and bang but otherwise performing ok, bad news is my economy has jumped a litre/100, maybe it will settle down but I suspect the fix for the tranny shift point issue was just to push the revs higher before changing....
 

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The woes continue....
The oil cooler and sensor were replaced a few weeks back and all seemed ok.
Then I spotted a few drops of oil on the garage floor, they looked fresh and the floor was pressure washed last year. I threw a sheet of cardboard under the car and watched it for a week.
A couple of drops a day falling from somewhere round the rear diff/transmission area.
I slid under today and there is a leaking seal where the rear axle exits the rear "transmission" for want of a better word (I'm not sure if it's a diff/transfer case/tranny).
Not good, at 22,000 klms I've had this car back to the shop so often I'm seriously thinking of selling it.
That's what you get for buying a first generation.
 

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I emailed the list to the dealer at least a few weeks before which was what peeved me, they had the opportunity to book it in for a longer period, instead I feel it was glossed over. Particularly the safety recall which they said they would do but has now been postponed until the next visit.

Main issues
Transmission shift, needs a flash and re-learn
R05 (i think, safety recall)
Broken rubber stopper on the cargo blind RHS
Intermittent dropouts on bluetooth for phone (could be phone and not car, but check for updates)
Outdated maps on GPS (they told me march 2013 is the latest version)
Issues with ambient air temp
Issues with ACC cruise turning off alone
Issues with park sensors going off while the car is stationary and no obstacles in sight.

Issues they attended to
Oil change & filter, all checks and standard service
Transmission-no
R05 -no
broken rubber -no
Bluetooth, tested with iPhone (i run android) no fault found and no updates
Maps- no updates available
Air temp -no
Acc-no
Park sensors -no

I'm sure there were more on the list but to be honest the only ones I really cared about were the transmission, bluetooth and safety recall. I made it clear that I was less worried about the other issues.
I feel I just got a standard service, the bluetooth parings were reset so I repaired my phone but the same issue occurs(I've repaired multiple times).

There are maps available for the newer jeeps 2015 and I suspect they are a newer version (as voice control seems to have more support), maybe they are incompatible but what does that mean? I bought a June 2014 car with March 2013 maps, is that the best I will get? They were over a year old before the model hit Aus. they are now 2 years old and the car is only 9 months from release. My wrong assumption was that a brand new line of cars with brand new tech would have brand new maps.

anyhow enough ranting, they are giving me a spare car for 2 days next month to address my issues.

edit* P.S I was a bit cheeky and emailed them a link to another website that listed all of the TSB's for the KL.
I know someone who actually prints them out and leaves them on the front seat when he drops his car off.
I have just ordered a my15 TH in
Mango Tango .
What shpuld the latest map version be, 2013 seemsvery olffor a 2015 car. Garmi are selling 2016 maps ontheir hand helds. Are maps automatically updated with eachservice/ firmware upgrade????
 

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I have just ordered a my15 TH in
Mango Tango .
What shpuld the latest map version be, 2013 seemsvery olffor a 2015 car. Garmi are selling 2016 maps ontheir hand helds. Are maps automatically updated with eachservice/ firmware upgrade????

I would have to check the version number, the newer maps have color rendering of things like lakes and rivers in blue and there are options to turn on red light camera and speed camera warnings which you will keep off by default as the beeping interrupts the stereo.

I got City Jeep to put mine on a hoist today and check the seal on the rear left axle, they will replace the seal next week and do the rear lift module recall at the same time.
 

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Have just got off the phone to the dealer. The map version for my MY 15 TH is 2014/15. I am driving down to Tassie to pick up TH MY 15 built Nov 14 Complied 2/15 with Tech pack and elec/ conv pack in MT for 42k with 600km on thclock. Has to be buy of the century.
Will send pics when I get it back. The drive Hobart to GC should be a good tester.:)
 

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Hi there

First time here. In the market for a family (kids 9,7,5) car. Kids really keen on a Jeep, largely due to Richmond footy club sponsorship. Amazing to see actually.

I thought a Hyundai was the way to go and went to see a Jeep just to tick the box, but I really really liked the Cherokee

No huge hurry (we keep our cars for 10 years) and budget is important, but I do like the Sport with included leather and free iPad for $33k

Then I was researching and saw the 75th anniversary Cherokee is out in May. Not sure about the bronze wheels, but it seems to address all the reservations I had. Sunroof, mesh/ cloth seats which is fine and audio controls on wheel (hooray) and big 8.4" display. And a driver's footrest! Not sure about 2.4 or 3.2 and am mindful of the issues some have had. We are a 1 car family. We are not dragsters at all.

Specs: Jeep Life®: Jeep brand celebrates 75 years of legendary history with full line-up of new special-edition models

Nervous about the purchase, but hoping for decent pricing and have enquired. Hope we can get the beige interior in Oz

Thoughts on the green (special edition)

Servicing every 6 months and short warranty a bit of a drag, and not sure what colour, but looking forward to seeing it. I wonder what will be the price?

Will keep you updated. Cheers
 

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First time here. In the market for a family (kids 9,7,5) car. Kids really keen on a Jeep, largely due to Richmond footy club sponsorship....
Good on you SimonsJeep and welcome :thumbsup:

You've come to the right place to research all of your KL questions. Enjoy reading through the Posts and most of your questions should be answered. If not, just ask, and someone will help. You'll end up knowing more about the KL here than the Salesperson at the Jeep Dealership :D

All the best :)
 

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Simon - found your way here. Welcome to JG. :)

Thoughts on the green (special edition)
I love the recon green colour of the 75th anniversary edition. The only thing I regret about my KL Limited purchase is the colour. I was swayed by the husband and the child at the time - so went with True Blue but I really wanted eco-green (which has been discontinued now) so I'm all in favour of the recon green.

Dunno about pricing given the lacklustre performance of the Aust $ against the greenback and I don't see that changing anytime soon. :( Let's just hope it's reasonable.

Anyway, keep us updated as to how you go.
 

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Much obliged.

Do owners use 91 petrol or PULP? I've had 12 years of PULP (Mazda 6) and I'm Jack of it. But I'll be treating our next car like a new pin.

And good point, Marty. I've looked around plenty of dealers, selling plenty of makes, in the last month or 2. I've just been staggered at the lack of knowledge, poor selling skills (leaping into a trial close) and inability to select the features and present the benefits. Maybe one day I'll have a go myself. I'm a bit of a research nut, but gee whiz, how can someone not know things like functionality of audio, tyre specs or trim inclusions through the grades.

Dealer said he might have pricing details for the 75th anniversary in a week or so.

interested in 2.4l owners. We are not dragsters as I mentioned, but 2.4l quite ok or quite underwhelming and would people seriously suggest 3.2. 95% city driving.

Also, how's the vision from the back seat with the sill. Some cars are so high and my kids like to see out.

Cheers to all - learned much already.
 

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And good point, Marty. I've looked around plenty of dealers, selling plenty of makes, in the last month or 2. I've just been staggered at the lack of knowledge, poor selling skills....
In my case, and I'm not alone here, I provided my Salesperson with a VIN, a Build Sheet, and the date the ship arrived in Melbourne, all thanks to JeepGarage :D

In your particular case (95% city driving) it appears that the 2.4 would be fine. The 2.4 in my 2009 Honda Odyssey is kinda gutless, but does the daily drive job satisfactorily. I use 95RON in my car. The rear sill in the KL does appear quite high, but my 12 year old doesn't seem to have a problem seeing (out) over it.

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In my case, and I'm not alone here, I provided my Salesperson with a VIN, a Build Sheet, and the date the ship arrived in Melbourne, all thanks to JeepGarage :D

In your particular case (95% city driving) it appears that the 2.4 would be fine. The 2.4 in my 2009 Honda Odyssey is kinda gutless, but does the daily drive job satisfactorily. I use 95RON in my car. The rear sill in the KL does appear quite high, but my 12 year old doesn't seem to have a problem seeing (out) over it.

M :)

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I'd go for the 3.2l model as we had a Fiat Freemont with the 2.4 and we get better economy out of the 3.2 than we did with the Freemont, also using 91 RON fuel gives us 8.5 l/100 highway and <10 l/100 in suburbia.

You're on the right track with the Cherokee it's the best car we've owned!!!

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All the jeep sales people had a session in Sydney yesterday. Looks like the refresh units will be out in Q4 this year. The 75th anniversary edition Cherokee is said to be much closer to MY17 Cherokees than this year's. That'll be out in May

Pricing TBA. Be nice if the Aussie dollar could rise a bit before they finalise the list!

Anyone have the panoramic sunroof? I've never had a sunroof, much less a panoramic one. Does it get too windy or is it noisy? Kids are really excited by the idea
 

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Anyone have the panoramic sunroof? I've never had a sunroof, much less a panoramic one. Does it get too windy or is it noisy? Kids are really excited by the idea
We've had Sunroofs in our cars for nearly 10 years. The KL Cherokee has five (5) automatic positions and a "wherever you like opened" position :D

1. Fully closed,
2. Blind open only,
3. Vent position (partially raised at the rear),
4. Open just short of full open (best position for less "buffering" effect at speed), and
5. Fully open (increased "buffering" is experienced in this position at highway speeds).

We love our Sunroofs and the one in the Cherokee is a beaut. However, when driving diagonally over inclines or negotiating tight multi-story carparks, you will hear slight "creaking" from the sunroof as the roof flexes. For me this is no big deal; it's just the trade-off of having a gaping hole cut out of your roof.

We'll always get a sunroof in our vehicles and we use it as much as we can :thumbsup:
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Yeah, it's a big draw card for me. That's a lovely photo.

I'm 42 and was oK with the sport model, but I think we're going to get a latitude type fit out, on which the 75th anniversary is based. We are only 1 car in the family and for that extra money we think we'll really value the additions. We keep our cars for 10 years, too

Anyone with kids using a Cherokee? We have 2, soon to be 1, in child seats and 3 in total and just wondering how you've found the room in the back.
 

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Ha!, I appear to be the only one answering your questions SimonsJeep :lol: A while ago there were plenty of Posters here on the KL Forum, but I guess they're off driving and enjoying their beloved Jeeps :D

Anyone with kids using a Cherokee? We have 2, soon to be 1, in child seats and 3 in total and just wondering how you've found the room in the back.
We only have one 13 year old. However I often drive her and three of her friends to the Movies, Shopping Mall, Sports, School Events etc etc. So 3 x 13 year olds appear to sit in the back quite comfortably.
 

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Thanks again

I'm at the "Gee whiz what about a Jeep and now I've sat in one and watched 15 hours of reviews and am really excited about getting one and I just want to talk about it to anyone and everyone" stage.

Be back to ask some more closer to May and if I get some guidance on price.
 

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Oi! I'm still here - I'm just busy busy at the moment.

I also have the pano roof on my Limited. It's great. Marty has pretty well covered it in his post. Child (age 12) has it completely sorted now and he controls it.

Said child and his friends report that they prefer riding in the KL over our GC. I suspect it comes down to more 'snuggyness' in the KL. Less 'floating' around those huge seats in the back of the Grand.

I can't emphasize enough just how impressed I am with the KL. We purchased it sight unseen ie: in the flesh - (signed the contract prior to demos arriving in the dealership). We made our decision on the back of our MY14 GC (which is also a brilliant vehicle) coupled with info available on the net.

Have never regretted that decision. It has exceeded my expectations.
 

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I'm at the "Gee whiz what about a Jeep and now I've sat in one and watched 15 hours of reviews and am really excited about getting one and I just want to talk about it to anyone and everyone" stage.
I know how you feel. It's something about the mystique of Jeep that has kept me intrigued and interested in the brand over the years.

How many other Car Manufacturers can enthuse people (such as our own Scottina06, ....thank you Sir) to initiate and organise a specific Car Brand Forum that can boast nearly 100,000 members?

Yes, in general, the Jeep, at times, can be a pain in the arse. However I've read a few negative comments regarding other Cars on their Forum sites too. The pleasing thing is that I believe that Jeep (as a Brand) are slowly, but surely, getting better with the reliability and quality control of their vehicles compared to 10 years ago.

Yes, you'll read a lot of negative comments about a Jeep here; but this Forum is no different from any other Car Forums. People being people, will always post about "issues" with their vehicles, but they will rarely post about how great their car is on a Forum.

I had a love / hate relationship with my 2000 WJ Grand Cherokee Limited V8; but for shear driving enjoyment, it was one of the best cars that I've ever had the pleasure to "drive".

Our second Jeep; our current 2015 KL, is superb. And after 15 months of ownership, we've had absolutely zero issues with it. Well done Jeep :thumbsup: (See my Garage for the Vehicle History).

I look forward to purchasing a new generation Grand Cherokee in 2019, and until then I'll continue to enjoy reading and learning more about Jeeps at this tremendous site.

It's a Jeep thing :)
 
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