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Would you consider adding the Forester turbo to the spreadsheet. Seems to be the only other small CUV that someone would take off pavement.
 

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I doubt even 1% of them will ever see a gravel driveway, much less be off road. I'll be happy to add the Forester. The data is on Edmunds and KBB. To keep it simple, I only did the loaded AWD versions, the type I might buy.

As far as carrying ability, nobody carries bags of beans stacked to the ceiling,so floor space depth and width are more important than cubic foot capacity. I thing it will be about as useful as the Grand Cherokee as far as cargo capability, for far less moeny,a nd with far better fuel mieleage. I hope it is large enough for my needs, but suspect I'll wind up with a Durango.

The table was done with WordPerfect, saved as a PDF, opened with Acrobat (full version), saved as a jpg, opened with Ifranview, cropped, then uploaded to Photobucket.
 

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You should see if you can get the info for rear load floor height. This is a spec that many overlook, but is HUGELY important from a practical standpoint.

Case in point, our other vehicle is a Mitsubishi Outlander, which has a tailgate and a liftgate. The tailgate folding down brings the load floor WAY down, so it can be easily loaded. It's much easier to load things into the back of it than into the back of my Overland. But to make the point more drastic, my parents have a Lincoln MKX. It doesn't have an air suspension like my GC to lower down, and its load floor is very high. My mother complains about it all the time, as she can't easily load and unload it. As a result, the rear bumper is scratched all to hell from her resting things on it while loading them in.

The split rear design like in X5, Range Rover, and Outlander really is the best design overall.
 

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It depends on the height of the owner. I'm 6' 1", and my wife is 5' 10", so we would not like a load floor too low. The BMW tailgate design would make reaching things in the cargo compartment which are towards the front of the vehicle much more difficult. The normal liftgate is also helpful in rainy weather.

Here is the table with the Forester:
 

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It depends on the height of the owner. I'm 6' 1", and my wife is 5' 10", so we would not like a load floor too low. The BMW tailgate design would make reaching things in the cargo compartment which are towards the front of the vehicle much more difficult. The normal liftgate is also helpful in rainy weather.
This is true to an extent, but we're rather tall as well (I'm 6'2, gf is 5'9, mother is 5'7, dad is 6'1). the load floor in Outlander is not so low that you're bending down to put stuff in. That said, the top section isn't nearly as long as the Jeep's so you do suffer a bit when loading things in the back in the rain. Reaching things forward in the cargo area is no harder if you leave the tailgate section up (we typically do if just getting groceries or something, the tailgate is mostly for loading in heavier objects and the dog - its easier on his hips to jump in).

That Subaru must be a little rocket with all that turbocharged power and low weight.
 

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Nice chart. Your Chevy equinox fuel economy numbers are for the 4-cyl engine. The V-6 AWD gets a much more 16 city, 23 highway, and 19 combined.

These days I won't even look at a vehicle if the city number is below 20 MPG and the highway below 25 MPG.
 

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I'm thinking another one for the table might be the Hyundai Santa Fe Sport. Redesigned and looks nice. Has AWD and an available turbo 4. I wish the Cherokee had an available turbo option. I wish i knew the pricing for the Cherokee!
 

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I've been looking into the 2014 Subaru Forester XT Touring, which also seems to be a pretty viable option. I think it might be that vs. the Cherokee if I go with a vehicle of this type.
 
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