I have a dealer offering me 43-45 on my '12. That's pretty ridiculous.Invoice. Very little haggling. However, they are trying to hose me on my trade-in.
Easy to get well below MSRP...
(Disclaimer - depending on location and if you're willing to travel if you're in a bad one).
You can also try sending a message to Renesis07. He is from Hawk Jeep in Forest Park IL as well as being another sponsor dealer. Go to the vendor section and check it out.You being in Chicago, I don't think that you're far from Pat @ Fields Auto who is a sponsor on the board... I'd talk to him.
Past that, hit up the internet salesman or sales managers at the dealerships around you. It takes some legwork, but it isn't hard. The worst thing that will happen is a salesman will try to blow smoke up your @$$ about some excuse he has and say they can't do any better...
How much is invoice?Invoice. Very little haggling. However, they are trying to hose me on my trade-in.